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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I do, because they will have had no say in who replaces him.

The same way the DNC forced Hillary on everyone in 2016.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

because they will have had no say in who replaces him.

I agree with that

But I think Biden and Hillary are the only two who can lose to trump.

I think if it's not Biden it's Kamala. If you still don't think she can win, check out that podcast I linked you. I know podcasts suck, but it's really fucking good and logically spells out how despite how bad Kamala is, she can still beat Trump. And like we've said, they agree she's pretty much the only one the DNC would nominate

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kamala can't win because even her own staff hates her and she has tremendous baggage from her days in California.

I do like the Biden clip on Morning Joe though.

https://youtu.be/8aziuR76Cek

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to be out her campaigning for her...

But her baggage is being a prosecutor. And she be running against a guy with 34 felonies.

She uniquely excels at debating idiots. She can be incredibly dismissive and then pivot quickly back to the issue.

15 minutes into a debate/exchange and trump would be screaming nonsense giving himself a heart attack and Kamala would be calmly lying to us about how progressive she is.

And even though we all know she's lying, we knew Joe was lying in 2020 too. We still voted for him.

We voted for Hillary in 2016.

We voted for Obama in 2012 after we knew what he was really like.

We won't go that far with Joe. But Kamala has benefit of the doubt. And that's enough to get votes when trump is on the ballot

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The baggage goes a little beyond "being a prosecutor":

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html

Getting caught manipulating evidence is exactly the sort of thing that cost her the primary bid and should have cost her the VP job.

But when it comes to electability, literally nobody likes her. Even her own staff hates her. She's a non-starter as a viable candidate. She's Hillary but less likeable.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Getting caught manipulating evidence .that's not what the link says happened...