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[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (5 children)

We are long past the point where it would have been feasible for Biden to withdraw. We were past that point well before the first debate. It is too late to get somebody else on the ballot in many states, including states that then Dems potentially need, like Nevada.

Anybody still repeating the line that Biden needs to withdraw is either:

  1. Ignorant of how election law works

  2. A bad actor, pushing right wing/Russian talking points.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. It's too late to promote some lesser known candidate enough to compete with the frothing rotten cult of personality stench that surrounds the orange rapist.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

No it’s not. The last brokered convention was in 1952, it can happen again.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You can argue that it's not a good idea for Biden to withdraw. That doesnt make people who think the opposite either Russian operatives or ignorant of election law. It just does not.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They have a different opinion? I mean, for the love of God - there are numerous Democrat politicians who are calling for a replacement. It's fucking childish to say all of those people are either Russians or ignorant of electorial law. I mean, grow up!

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand how anyone who understands election law can seriously be suggesting a replacement.

For example, a new Democratic candidate wouldn't be eligible to be on the ballot in Ohio. It would be just handing a state to Trump.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So all the members of Biden's own party who want him replaced are Russian assets or don't understand electorial law? That's your point of view?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does that make Biden a Russian disinformation agent for blowing the debate?

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, it just makes him an old guy with a lifelong speech impediment. Just like Trump is an old guy who is a lying rapist.

It’s a really hard choice.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Not being able to speak for ages and not being able to finish this sentences is not a speech impediment.

But yes, Trump is absolutely the worst. I doubt there's ever been a more venal, revolting president

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

TIL Jon Stewart is either ignorant or a bad actor. Does no one know how to read a poll?

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Polls are massively inaccurate. Not just because of some sigma six level quantitative analysis, but because of the methodology.

People 45 and under don’t answer the phone. When my phone rings I immediately block the person forever unless it’s a contact as do most people that are millennials and younger. So pollsters rely on who answers the phone, which is usually angry grandpa.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You know that makes it more dire, right ? Right? If the Democratic base is older, and his approval is that low, what does that mean for millennials and younger?

If Bidens depending on Millennials and Gen Z to drag him across the finish line, and you think he can win, then I have a skibidi toilet in Ohio to sell ya.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Guess we better vote for the fascists then! That will be much better.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not a binary choice. The people concerned about Biden aren’t going to vote for Trump. Emma and Sam explain it quite well.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, it pretty much is binary at this point. It’s naive for you to think otherwise. Stop helping to elect fascists.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

lol says who? I can name Senators, US House representatives, senior strategists for Obama, even a former DNC Chair who fucking say otherwise. Don't bullshit me.

You're not just wrong, you may very well be outright lying. Now show me your evidence or walk away.