To better explain the argument: they are not saying "it's 50:50 the child will suffer", they mean "there is obviously a non-zero chance that children will suffer", which is absolutely true. It's up to the individual to consider their situation (money, time, temper, parental knowledge, genetic diseases etc) to gauge how much more may their children have it worse than average.

And I would say that many children do indeed suffer, and many don't have the conditions that I personally would consider ideal.

But having a child is always on their respective parents. Morality won't change their minds.

[–] randomname01@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

They’re saying life is miserable, I’m saying it’s not inherently miserable. Like, that’s not a subjective take lol.

Also, what about my comment made it seem like they said it was 50/50? And even if I thought that’s what they said, how does that invalidate my argument?

Even in my comment I acknowledge there are multiple reasons not to have children, so I really don’t understand what you’re arguing against.