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20 TB at that price range could brankrupt some small cloud providers. Selfhosting would be much easier without having to worry about space. IF the price stays the same, but we'll see.
I don't think the vast majority use cloud storage because it's cheap. The vast majority use it because they are unwilling or unable to setup their own.
Hosting an Internet facing service out of your own house requires constant maintenance for security.
I self host, and drop encrypted backups onto a cloud storage provider. If anything, cheap storage is going to cost me more because I'll be inclined to back more up.
Damn, you're right! That cheap SSD could bankrupt us! 🙈😆
Right. And if you want to self host with some geographic redundancy, it requires having friends or family with a good Internet connection who are willing to let you have a server at their place. Not impossible, but can be annoying.
I'm setting up a raspberry pi+HDD at family's house, with wireguard to my home network. Fun stuff, but it's not an off-the-shelf solution, especially when you consider that it's not my Internet access, it's theirs, so trying to be polite with bandwidth/data caps means it's a bit kneecapped.
Yeah, there are a lot of security layers checks that big providers handle that most beginners users don't even know exist.
I can't imagine the damage of someone breaching through your server and reaching your personal network.
Also an extra machine, if you plan to have 99% uptime.
I’d be interested what the wear-leveling and write-cycles look like. $250 for 20TB is half the current price of decent spinning rust, but if they’ll die in a year because they’re part of a Ceph cluster or ZFS array, that’s gonna be a no from me, dawg.
My bulk media is practically WORM anyway. BRING IT ON!
No? Like, not at all.
WD Red Pro 20TB = $420 MSRP, $380 cheapest I’ve found. Not considering taxes/shipping in that
So, you’re splitting hairs by saying that’s not half. Point stands
16-18 TB HDD have been at that price for like 5 years, it doesn't mean most people buy them