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https://www.vice.com/en/article/mbm74x/computer-scientist-richard-stallman-resigns-from-mit-over-epstein-comments
Smart guy. Not a good person. Don't idolize people
Honestly it comes across to me not as him defending rapists, but actually just genuinely not understanding how rape works. The guy somehow understands people less than I do, and that's saying something.
We're talking about the creator of Emacs. Do you think that guy leaves his house.
That was my neighbor's defense, too. "It wasn't rape! She was very clearly coming onto me!" about the 14-year old girl he """encountered""" as a college student.
He very absolutely understands what rape is. He just doesn't want age to be a factor if she's "into it". It's very very very very very clear where he stands: if she consents, it's not rape, no matter her age!
Nobody is even accusing him of rape. Why treat him like a rapist when nobody has suggested the possibility that he had done anything wrong besides stick his foot in his mouth? It seems obvious to me that the point he was poorly attempting to make was that he's uncomfortable with the inconsistencies around age of consent in different countries, not that there should be no such thing. 17 is enough to be a consenting adult in some actual reasonable countries.
No one is accusing him of rape. Just saying his view on the whole thing is sketch as fuck.
.......okay.
What, do you think someone's 18th birthday suddenly magically transforms them from a child to an adult overnight? The line has to be somewhere, and I'm perfectly happy with it being 18, but other countries having a slightly different line doesn't make them all rapists.
I wish people would read the published mail thread and not the news articles...he never defended rapists. His quote was quite different. Also, the victim, insofar as her interaction with his old boss, confirmed what happened.
An actual good take.
Thank you.
sad to see that he thinks like that about rape and the whole Epstein thing :(