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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think its only drivers. Cyclists are usually respectful about not running over others.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Cyclists can most certainly go into a blind rage as well, acting like drivers aren’t people.

I cycle myself and there are 100% times it’s warranted, but let’s stop with the idea that cyclists are enlightened beings that can never do wrong.

Some people cycle around and break the rules of the road like idiots, and put themselves in danger at times.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Cyclists can most certainly go into a blind rage as well, acting like drivers aren’t people.

Acting like drivers aren't people. Not other cyclists, not pedestrians, just drivers.

In other words, once again, the fundamental cause of the problem is the cars.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, it's not the machine we're using, is disconnecting our empathy from that person who inconveniences us

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No, it’s not the machine we’re using, is disconnecting our empathy from that person who inconveniences us

Exactly: the machine we're using (the automobile) is disconnecting our empathy from that person who inconveniences us!

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

... Maybe? But one is responsible for their brain, not the car. There's a choice here

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

No, no these isn't. It's like saying you can believe away an infection.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But one is responsible for their brain, not the car.

Why not both? What does this even mean? Car brains smh...

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

...I tried to reconstruct my thinking and honestly, I failed.

Good catch!

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

A big part of that problem could be solved by properly seperating bikes from cars and allowing as little points of conflict as possible. Then at least car ragers are surrounded by just cars which have some protection for their occupants, and cyclists are surrounded by other cyclists which can hopefully leave the area of a rager. Id still rather someone ram me with a bicycle than a car.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 4 months ago

You are the problem. Its never warranted to act like someone else isn't human.

Take the lane. Stay visible. Ride safe. Follow vehicle laws.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://jalopnik.com/study-finds-cyclists-are-better-people-than-drivers-1850964103

(That's not actually about road courteousness; it's about things like civic engagement in general. Still...)