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submitted 3 months ago by mecfs@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17528988

Guided bus

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[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Jack of all trades, master of none.

[-] Oddbin@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

Is oftentimes better than a master of one.

People always miss that bit out.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

Likely due to the phrase being added to over time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_all_trades

Another version is: "Jack of all trades, master of none, but better still than a master of one."

A number of old phrases have been added to over time.

[-] dillekant@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

Was watching a YT video against this idea. Basically the occupancy is quite low per dollar, and generally there's not much expertise in building them. This means the city/state is tied to one company which can ream them price-wise. If you need the occupancy, get a train.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 3 months ago

If the buses use electric traction and charge continuously whilst on the guideway, that could be a win, in allowing for smaller batteries and less downtime than a regular electric bus (especially if the unguided portion of the route is a “last mile”, comprising a relatively small proportion of the route). If they’re just regular diesel buses, it seems somewhat pointless.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but what's the advantage of it being guided? Instead it could have just be a private road that supports trolleybuses as well as emergency vehicles. Instead, it's a gadgetbaun.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 3 months ago

If it is travelling on a precise guideway (more precisely aligned than a traffic lane), then it is possible to transfer electrical power to it safely, either by aligning a pantograph with an overhead catenary or by a system of conductive rails, Once you can do that, the vehicle’s weight drops (as it doesn’t need to carry as much fuel), increasing carrying capacity and/or reducing the frequency of required road maintenance, Additionally, as electrical power is fungible (and can be sourced from whatever generation method is most economical), running costs are decreased over combustible fuel (as long as you don’t need to store it in the vehicle).

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

None of those are advantages over a trolleybus.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 3 months ago

A trolleybus’s speed is limited by the need to maintain contact with the cable (or two cables, as the current needs an earth connection, which doesn’t help). A fixed guideway allows the vehicle to travel at higher speeds whilst retaining contact.

[-] 403@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

The obahn in Adelaide is elevated, near a river. Not often near other roads for emergency vehicles so would be of limited use for that. The bus has small horizontal wheels that keep it on the tracks, and allow it to go reasonably fast, about 80 km/hr between stops. Once it gets closer to the city, it does just use dedicated bus lanes, that emergency vehicles can also use. It's not perfect, but works pretty well and at morning rush hour I can catch a bus every minute or so from my stop. Most of the buses are pretty full, so that's a lot of cars off the road. Once the buses are full electric I think it will be even better and quieter.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
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