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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Both are correct. Language changes.

Do you say *newb when correcting people that spell it noob because the origin of the word is newbie?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

get on my level, i correct people when they say bird to let them know it's *bridd.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only when that flappy birb got them double d’s

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It's "fappy" birb.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's different.

Anyone who says "sike" over "psych" is a sike-o, plain and simple.

No I will not elaborate further.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Whatever you say, Sithik!

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 9 points 4 months ago

It's spelled n00b!

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Both are correct. Language changes.

Does that mean that "there", "their", and "they're" can be used interchangeably now? Because that is much, much more common.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

No, because those all mean different things. Sike and psyche mean the same thing. Nobody needs to get pedantic about the correct spelling of slang used by elementary school kids in the 80's.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"language changes" does but make something magically correct.

It's not "pasgetti", it's "spaghetti".

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

It doesn't change magically. It changes through continuous usage and acceptance from society. That's how language works.

Some examples. When was the last time you heard somebody say something was "awful", as in awe inspiring? When a kid says literally, do you take them 100% seriously or do you accept that the word's changed to be a synonym for "figuratively" among younger people? And as far as spelling is concerned, colour and color are both correct spellings, depending on where you live. Gray vs grey, acknowledgment vs acknowledgement, same thing. Or look at barbecue vs barbeque; the latter was incorrect for a very long time until the popularization of the abbreviation BBQ, after which it became a commonly accepted variant.

These things were not always correct, and yet, now they are. Society adopts and uses different meanings and spellings for words all the time. Sorry friend, you're not the arbiter of English. It changes with or without you onboard.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, but what we're talking about is far too new and infrequent for that to have happened yet.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It changes through continuous usage and acceptance from society.

"Clique popularity", then.

Point out the largest clique and see what they've done already. Witness your future to come. Hint: America's 'literally' and its dog-food spelling isn't the leader.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Hint: America’s ‘literally’ and its dog-food spelling isn’t the leader.

Okay? I'm talking about American English. Everybody's languages evolve differently based on their culture. I'm American, so American English is what I know best.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Neither are you, friend. One webcomic does not change the language.

Enjoy your pasgetti with tomatoe sauce while you drink your expresso. Remember to enjoy it's flava.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 months ago

Both are correct. Language changes.

Apparently through popularity. It's like this need for evolution isn't checking for validity so much as "did the mean girls make a mistake that we should cover up?" .

The French have it right.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As in short for "paych-out".

I've seen many people insist Ir's "sike", though.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

I’ve seen many people insist Ir’s “sike”, though.

Anecdotal 'trump-style' evidence aside, those people are what we like to refer to as morons.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I've seen many people insist Ir's "sike", though.

I'd like to hear their rationale for that. I'll bet it's something like "That's how I saw it spelled".

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Language isn't set in stone. If enough people are using one spelling, then that becomes a new spelling. A lot of spellings, words, phrases, and meanings from 100 years ago would be unrecognizable to you. People who pretend that the words they like best are the only correct ones are just being jerks for the sake of looking smart.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If enough people are using one spelling, then that becomes a new spelling.

If enough people are doing it, then it must be in dictionaries. Which dictionaries have accepted this alternate spelling?

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean, I found it in two pretty substantial dictionaries after a quick search: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/sike https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=sike

Along with countless other dictionaries that cover slang and alternate spellings, but I figured you wouldn't think that those counted.

But I will say that if being in a dictionary is a requirement for a word being part of the English language, you're not accounting for a large portion of modern American/Internet vernacular. People who actually study language would never have this take, as languages are made up of the words people actually use, not the words that a board of folks decide to put into a list.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

That's because they are idiots.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago

A robot should know better!