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It's gotten better
This is so true. I think for a lot of us this advice (or often command) was most frequently heard in these exact words during adolescence. That said this sentiment can at times feel very present.
In my experience it's gotten better amongst men. Men telling each other to "man up" has largely died, and they are much better at supporting each other. A lot have gotten much better at recognizing when to ask for help too.
However, I think there are a lot of men in relationships under pressure to always be the rock, the protector and provider. They're not allowed to have a problem or a weakness. I mean it's a great way to flush out awful candidate partners. Show a little vulnerability and see how disinterested they get, but it gets tiresome.
I'd say the opposite. It's an obvious red flag that someone doesn't open up about anything.
Not my experience, but something not too different.
In every relationship, someone has to be the safe harbor for the other to withstand the occasional emotional crisis. This role can and should be taken in turns so that each one gets each other's back. But when your insecurity/vulnerability matches with the other person, it takes a freaking HUGE amount of emotional intelligence and energy to be the person that tanks the crisis this one time and open up about this later, when the other person is ready to take turns.
What I observe in practice is that people (man and women) only learn how to deal with this situation in two extreme ways: 1) spiral into the storm along the partner - which is a fuckup because the other person is not ready for this; 2) suck it up forever and ever - which builds up resentment long-term.
There is a middle path. It takes time to acquire it, it takes even more time to teach it to a partner, but it's one of the main ingredients of constructive conflict resolution.
I think there's less generational transmission of this notion as the aged die off
I agree. If enough of us are like that, then society will start to lean that way as well :)
You've a positive take, and that's what's Is appreciates abouts yous
Take about 10% off there squirrelly Oka
What was that, sorry?
HE SAID OP HAS A POSITIVE TAKE AND THATS IS WHATS HE APPRECIATES ABOUTS OP.
Oh look, ground!
(It's a letterkenny reference)