this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2024
631 points (99.2% liked)

World News

38978 readers
2659 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The electricity grid operators of the three Baltic countries on Tuesday officially notified Russia and Belarus that they will exit a 2001 agreement that has kept Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania connected to an electricity transmission system controlled by Moscow.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That is an interesting thought exercise. Would they really be cut off, and what would the impacts look like? I don't know anything about Kaliningrad internal sustainability, but could guess it's... not good. Time to annex?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Unless you are proposing a genocide (which I hope not), Königsberg is full of russians, which I doubt many countries would want to deal with right now.

It is (or it was) the major military seaport in the baltic... and we are speaking about russia. They most likely generate their own power.

On the long run, i think it should be annexed by the EU as a common land for the whole union.

Edit: Just checked, they mainly produce energy with gasoil and are apparently currently importing energy from EU to satisfy internal demand. They also have a nuclear power plant of 2,34 MW (2 VVER) under construction. They built it under the idea of producing energy to export but as they failed to find buyers, construcción was halt.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

On the long run, i think it should be annexed by the EU as a common land for the whole union

What about we turn it into a great nudist LGBTQ+ friendly resort? With rainbows and unicorns and blahajs and what not.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Beautiful idea in theory, but the deeply conservative domestic residents might not appreciate it.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

It's the best time to start. The authorities are probably too busy to chance down some queers at the beach.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Kaliningrad is not called Königsberg anymore. There was a war over this.

On the long run, I think it should be annexed by the EU.

This is imperialism. IMO, the people of the Oblast Kaliningrad should be able to decide for themselves since the Russian Federation is de jure a federation. Once independent, Kaliningrad would be able to go through EU's process of entry into the union.

I don't see this happening anytime soon, because Russia is de facto neither a federation nor a democracy and I assume the people of Kaliningrad do not have the political will to be independent or part of the EU at the moment.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People casually calling for the ethnic cleansing of Russians from a Russian Oblast and annexation of the territory is fucked up.

Russia's crimes in Ukraine don't make it okay for us to become completely deranged and want to forcibly remove thousands upon thousands of people from a region.

[–] Masshuru@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Except…. No one in this messaging chain called for ethnic cleansing, just annexation. So…. maybe don’t make stuff up?

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

2,34MW seems pretty low for a nuclear power plant. For comparison, the smallest nuclear plant in the US produces 568MW

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

As a Pole, I want Kaliningrad to be renamed to Królewiec (or Kralovec for that matter), all Russians deported and the land split evenly for Czechs and Slovaks so that they finally get their sea access.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, lets not forcefully deport people from their homes.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

As Europe returns to it's fascist roots, I'm afraid this sentiment is going to steadily increase in popularity.

Strap in for another 30 Years War.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Hell yea brother! All aboard the Královec express! :D

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

Ethnically cleanse Russians from Kaliningrad, annex the territory and fill it with ethnic Czechs and Slovaks. Not fascistic at all...