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A pediatric doctor at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia was killed while riding her bike in Center City on Wednesday night.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/deadly-3-car-crash-rittenhouse-philadelphia/3915690/

The original post on the Philadelphia subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/philadelphia/comments/1e5wkv0/insane_accident_on_18th_and_spruce/

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[–] PedestrianError@towns.gay 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@apfelwoiSchoppen @ByteOnBikes Active voice would be, “A driver killed…”

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They're both active voice, they just have different verbs.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yep, high school grammar 101. It isn't that journalists don't know this, it is how they are trained. Shift obvious blame away from parties for objectivity until a verdict or deference to the status quo.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Yes, we all agree on that fact. The discussion progressed to two different commentors' active voice re-writes of the original sentence.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would argue the first isn't active voice

"died when the driver of a car hit her" seems passive to me. It's more accurate, but still passive.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Both killed and died are active voice.

[–] PedestrianError@towns.gay 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@apfelwoiSchoppen But functionally, the victim didn’t die on her own, she died as the direct result of the driver hitting her. For the purpose of accurately portraying who took an action and who was acted upon, it should emphasize the driving, not the dying.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The discussion was active voice vs passive voice, not functionality of active voice vs functionality of differently-worded active voice. They're both still active voice.

[–] PedestrianError@towns.gay -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

@PapaStevesy IMO active voice includes focusing the sentence on the subject that did the action, not the one that was acted upon but by all means let’s argue about grammatical definitions instead of the problem of motorists killing people and journalists normalizing it. 🙄

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I mean, you're literally the one who started the argument, being dismissive and condescending about it now just makes you look like a sore loser.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You're the one doing that. Killed/died same difference, but I apologize for not using the same verb as the original quote for clarity.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Correct. I said killed.