this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2024
-39 points (30.3% liked)

politics

19089 readers
3766 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

US presidential candidate, Jill Stein, says because of AIPAC's $100 million funding of the US election, it has become ''politically toxic' to speak out against the genocide in Gaza.

‘If we have concerns about the right to life before birth, how about a right to life after birth,’ she said in reference to Israel’s killing of innocent children and the elderly in Gaza. US President Joe Biden 'can end this war with a phone call’, she added.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

That's not what she says about sitting there at the head table in December 2015. https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn

Also, it's kind of a weird coincidence that that russian propaganda just happened to launch a pro Jill campaign that helped take votes away from Clinton the following year. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-launched-pro-jill-stein-social-media-blitz-help-trump-n951166 (Not saying Jill is necessarily a russian asset, but Putin still used her for his advantage.)

[–] MarciaLynnDorsett@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My bad. I called it the head table because that's what both the reporter and Jill said in the interview.

[–] MarciaLynnDorsett@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

really? can you link that? i've been arguing about this irrelevant photo for over half a decade and this is the first i've heard it was the head table.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

yup no problem, it's in my above comment. https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn

I'm not trying to say she was necessarily a russian asset, but Putin did seem to use her to his advantage to help trump, which is something Putin is pretty good at.

[–] MarciaLynnDorsett@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

damn. i have watched that interview a dozen times and missed that it was the head table. what i did hear (and transcribed just now while watching it) was:

"war has failed in the middle east"

"we need a peace offensive"

"there was no interpreter"

"no introductions were made"

"it was a chance to lift up a different point of view about US ... as well as Russian foreign policy."

"I spent the dinner talking to the german diplomat"

"i wasn't paid a penny."

"i declined sponsorship"

"nothing happened at that dinner"

"that picture circulates without a single fact"

"i was there with a number of peace advocates"

i'm sure you can understand how i found it forgettable that it was the head table, and i hope you can forgive my assertion that it was not.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

No problem, all in all it's a pretty minor detail that doesn't change anything anyway. Like I said, I don't think she was acting under Putin's orders, just that he (and his propaganda machine) jumped on the chance to take advantage of things to help the Orange guy.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago

She didn't take any votes from Clinton, that's not how voting works. We would not have voted for Clinton even if there was no one else on the ballot.