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[–] spikkedd@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Just remember that during the 2016 election, the "If not Bernie, then Trump" bros turned out to be Russian interference.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's just Russia trying to split the Dem base.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Ever wonder why it's rich media companies who are screeching from the rooftops that Biden is old and needs to step down, while AOC, Bernie, and all the actual progressives are standing behind him?

This is a revolt of the ownership class against Biden's proposed tax hikes. Nothing more. And Leftists are falling for it hook line and sinker.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That might be the catalyst, but it's very much more than that: it's a power grab. The ruling class has amassed so much wealth that they want to do away with some limits to what they can do with it and Trump will let them if they help pay his bills or just agree that he doesn't need to pay any bills.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Three things can be true

And also a certain amount of understandable panic because he really did shit the bed pretty bad in the debate, which is then fed and amplified by dishonesty from the other three camps and precious little effort invested on the other side except for random do-gooders from time to time (and people like AOC who actually understand that she and her direct constituents will be in direct physical danger from a second Trump presidency and this isn't some fucking ratings game they're playing)

[–] approval4363@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Two issues with Biden:

  1. A lot of people on the left disagree with his policy on supporting Isreal on Gaza.
  2. He's acts like a senile old man when he's communicating. Yes maybe he's still clear headed. But the low information voter who doesn't really pay attention to politics will see his saying "I trust my VP Trump" and automatically just vote for the person who doesn't seem like they belong in a nursing home.
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Doesn't matter. Media will push their narrative, and sheep will eat it up. The media has literally doctored videos of Pelosi back when they were trying to push the "she's senile" narrative because they couldn't find any good clips of her saying dumb things.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Yes and people are eating it up.

Ask yourself why we have hundreds of articles on Biden yet none talking about the convicted felon, rapist, nuclear secret stealing, insurrection inciting traitor.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lol no we are not. We're just not able to justify supporting a genocide.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Excellent point, I forgot about the useful idiots.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

"If not Bernie, then Trump" bros turned out to be Russian interference.

Did they?

Bernie had a 'uge amount of grassroots support without any mainstream media coverage.

And even if they were Russian, it seems they were correct in 2016.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for that claim? Many real people were upset about Bernie being overthrown and spite voted against the Democrats.

[–] spikkedd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Other than this extremist, right leaning news source, no.

But I do recall it being all over reddit at the time.