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[Video] Kamala Harris's staunch support for Israel (x.com)

submitted 3 months ago by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/palestine@lemmy.ml

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Trash her after the election, we do not have time for this now.

Relevant MLK quote:

I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice [...]

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Very different context there. I'd much prefer a Bernie (minus the Israel stance) or an AOC, but some points in history call for pragmatism. I'm a Brit anyway, so not really my circus.

I'd like to hear what you think is right in the current situation. Throwing quotes and platitudes without serious discussion of the options is a shallow discussion.

You prefer Trump or Kamala? Do you genuinely see another option? I hardly see the overthrowing of the capitalist class is happening in the next 4 months. What do you think is best for the Palestinian cause, Kamala or Trump?

Plus, Kamala in the vid is talking to AIPAC, in a very different context. What do you genuinely expect a politician to say?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Plus, Kamala in the vid is talking to AIPAC, in a very different context. What do you genuinely expect a politician to say?

I would expect a decent person not to engage with a genocidal regime. But I wouldn't expect anything from a politician.

[–] sparkle@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean discouraging voting for her doesn't actually do any good unless we do a revolution or something. I recognize that not voting just threatens the rights of Americans in marginalized/vulnerable groups while doing nothing positive for Palestinians unless you count virtue signaling. Losing security in their votes doesn't make them move leftwards. This isn't going to change even if every leftist in the US refuses to vote blue, we're just a tiny group in comparison to centrists. More people would be leftists if we had actually good education, but...

""Moderates"" are scum of the Earth but we didn't build up to the Civil Rights act by sabotaging the less bad people. We would still have segregation and pretty much no women's rights if we just stopped voting until we had candidates with modern views on sex and race in a fundamentally sexist and racist America. We don't live in a functioning democracy, so you have to make decisions within the framework of a dysfunctional democracy. Democrats, at the very least, decrease disenfranchisement and improve access to education & healthcare (especially for underprivileged groups), so consistently voting for them guarantees we can vote for a better choice in the future. I've already experienced one Trump presidency, and he has far more sinister plans for the next one, so I have no reason to let him win.

Also this is unrelated, but thumb-key is great, you're awesome for doing work on that 👍