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[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The vaccine was clearly rushed into production and saved a lot of vulnerable people's lives. That does not mean it does not have risks that, for younger and healthier people, those might outweigh the benefits.

But public hysteria and groupthink dictated that it had to be coerced on people.

[-] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The vaccine underwent the exact same rigorous testing that literally every other vaccine or medication gets. The only difference is that COVID vaccines were given a free pass to the front of the line at each step necessary. As well, due to them having a much shorter timeline and higher competition, it was economical to run multiple tests in parallel that would normally have been done in series.

It wasn't "rushed" as in sloppy, it was "rushed" in that it was given priority in the various governmental queues.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

That does not mean it does not have risks that

The benefits outweigh the risks, even in the young and healthy, so the vaccines are recommended to everyone.

[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Indeed. Because the young men dropping dead from heart inflammation all were sick due to climate change.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I love how people mention heart inflammation from the vaccines, but they never talk about heart inflammation from COVID itself - it's more common with COVID itself, and it's more severe with COVID itself.

But hey, gotta hate on the vaccines, am I right?

[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I believe people should have a right to weigh these risks for themselves.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

And the vaccine was a choice. Noone was forced to take it.

[-] thecam@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

And the vaccine was a choice. Noone was forced to take it.

Many lost their jobs and in places like Canada could not leave the country for refusing to take the vaccine? It was not a choice, it was forced and those who wished to be left alone, lost basic freedoms.

Imagine you wanted to leave Canada to go to a better place, but you were denied since you needed to show a digital ID. Think about it.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

The provincial superior courts and the Supreme Court have long held and being vaccinated can be a requirement of employment. The people who lost their jobs did so because they did not meet their conditions of employment. Their choice.

You have the right under Section 6 of the Charter to cross provincial borders without restriction, to live anywhere in the country you choose to, and to leave Canada and return to Canada.

You could have walked to the border and left Canada if the US would take you (it wouldn't nor would any other country). If you were outside of Canada you could have walked to to the border and entered Canada but you would probably have been required to quantine for a couple of weeks. Your rights were never in any danger you just don't understand what they are.

[-] thecam@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

and to leave Canada and return to Canada

This is false. Canadians could not board planes. How can you leave the country if you were denied access to a plane ride? This did violate the Canadian charter of human rights.

Yeah the US also blocked access to the unvaxxed, the only neighbouring country to Canada. And denying access to air travel was not done to "stop the spread of COVID". It was malice, and to make excuses for this with twisted logic is quite disturbing to say the least.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Can you point to your right to fly on an airplane in the Charter? I'll wait...

Here is Section 6 to help you out.

You have no right to fly on an airplane or to ride on a train or a boat. You could have driven or walked to the border and left Canada if the US would take you. It wouldn't. You could have driven to the coast, bought a boat, and sailed to any country that you could reach by sea if they would take you. They wouldn't. You always had the right to leave Canada, you just didn't have the ability to leave Canada as a consequence of your choices.

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