802
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

he’s not a democrat

Look Bernie can distance himself as much as he wants from the party and technically not be a member, but his voting record and two attempts at running for president as a democrat indicate that he is a democrat in all but name. I know I know “he couldn’t win unless he joined a party” but come on. His not being a democrat is basically a technicality.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I mean the main reason atleast senate wise he caucuses with democrats is because they are the party that is closest to his views and if he didn't caucus with anyone he would be powerless in the Senate. And sure you can say from the current place America is in he is basically a Democrat he definitely is more progressive and pushes for more progressive ideas then Democrats would ever do.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

Which Democrats? All 50 of them? Yeah, they're not all progressive. But that doesn't mean that progressives aren't part of the party. Being a progressive pushing for more progressive ideas than the entirety of the caucus would support doesn't mean you're not a Democrat.

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In fact I applaud the progressives who are steadily pushing the Democrats further left - it’s easy to go “I’m changing things from the inside” but it’s another matter entirely to move the needle in a way that is relatively easy to observe.

To look at the party platform in 2014/2015 and then where it is now is wild. The 2019 primaries in particular showed how further left the party has been pushed, even if it’s still conservative by most western standards for “liberal” or “progressive.” Some ideas that are baked into the platform now were unthinkable back then.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He's been asked to join the party, but refused to do so only until he decided to run for President. When he failed he reverted back to Independant. That's the fact. BTW, Patrick Leahy, another independent Senator from Vermont, was asked to join the Democratic Party at the same time as Bernie. He did so and retired from the Senate after many years. Leahy remained a Democrat although he never ran for President.

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago

You are a sycophant for the broken 2 party system. He votes in line with democrats because it is the lesser of two EVILS. He still voices his opinions that are much farther left than the democrats. If you think he is a Democrat you haven't actually been paying attention. Maybe the democrats are taking ownership of him and his followers? That would be pretty cool because it might actually pull one of the parties and the country toward sanity, which was his entire life's goal.

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

you are a sycophant for the broken 2 party system

Wow that is a hell of a leap from what I said. I’d like you to point out a single line where I showed any support for the two party system.

There are also plenty of progressives in the Democratic party. It isn’t a rock solid checklist that you either fully fill out or you aren’t one. See: AOC and others.

I have only joined the democrats to stop the lesser of two evils. My critiques of them and reasons to be independent are exhaustive. But let’s call a spade a spade here. Bernie has been a Democrat for almost 10 years now. And that’s largely due to his very successful efforts to push the party further left, which is a great thing he did.

this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2024
802 points (98.5% liked)

politics

19107 readers
3882 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS