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No point in attacking you for something that works for you. Neither of us learns anything under those conditions. Philosophies teaching abstinence in physical pleasures have been around forever. In my mental map of the world, the NoFap community falls under those.
It is something you believe helps you be the person you want to be, more power to you. I would only consider it harmful if it attempts to impose its ideas on people who don't agree. Or deliberately spreads misinformation internally that may be harmful to its adherents.
The thing is that you don't want to listen us
First of all, we've never went in other places of the internet other than our community spaces promoting our ideas, you are the ones always attacking us.
In second hand, it is NOT about pleasure abstinence! We DO NOT claim that masturbation is intrinsically bad, we say that SOMETIMES, for SOME PEOPLE, that MIGHT be an issue which ultimately ends up exacerbating their previous issues, which sometimes even go away by themselves while the compulsory behaviour still remains, generating new issues and more frustration. We literally claim that sex is the best thing you can do to speed up your recovery journey and that after you feel completely free from your addiction (which usually takes 90 days) you can of course masturbate again, just in an healthy and controlled way
Also, we do not spread toxic behaviour and ideas which might harm our adherents. If you're not able to distinguish things from the contextes in which they are located it's neither our fault or our responsibility. It is not misinformation
"BuT 13YeAr OlDs oN ThE InTerNeT miGhT be seeInG yOuR ConTenT wiThOuT UndErStanDing iT"
So you're more afraid of an addiction recovery community, where people just cheer up each other into getting a new grip on life but not of all the softcore porn, the social media propaganda and echo chambers, cyberbullying and all the bad things traditional social media might create in the heads of you children, destroying their self confidence because they don't feel enough rich, skinny, or muscular, or who just don't fit our societal beauty archetype? C'mon, 10year olds shouldn't be even destroying their dopamine receptors on Instagram or TikTok in first place.