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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

”Mankind soon learn to make interested uses of every right and power which they possess, or may assume. The public money and public liberty, intended to have been deposited with three branches of magistracy, but found inadvertently to be in the hands of one only, will soon be discovered to be sources of wealth and dominion to those who hold them… They [the assembly] should look forward to a time, and that not a distant one, when a corruption in this, as in the country from which we derive our origin, will have seized the heads of government, and be spread by them through the body of the people; when they will purchase the voices of the people, and make them pay the price. Human nature is the same on every side of the Atlantic, and will be alike influenced by the same causes. The time to guard against corruption and tyranny, is before they shall have gotten hold of us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered.”

Thomas Jefferson

I understand the limits of Executive Orders, but the Supreme Court has overstepped its bounds. How can you reel in a branch of government that decides which laws will be enforced? Congress is feckless and stilted and captured by interests.

Pretending that America can litigate itself away from fascism is foolish. Republicans and the conservatives will not give up power willingly. It has to be taken.

If the Democrats, who claim to want to uphold the conventions of democracy, will not act dictatorially, the Republicans, with the help of the Supreme Court, surely will.

I know what I am saying seems extreme, because it is. We are experiencing turmoil because of unchecked power. If the Democrats do not ACT the republic will be lost, if it is not already too late.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I fundamentally disagree. I think if you invoke authoritarianism to supposedly prevent it, you've already lost. I don't think that's the case yet though. I still have hope. Our country has been much less democratic than this before and managed to improve, it can happen again.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“What makes us happy is not to get what we want, but to dream about it.”

Slavoj Žižek

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean this very practically, if Biden actually began acting extra judicially like you said, he'd just shatter norms faster, make all the false things Republicans say about democrats wanting to destroy democracy true, and lead to a landslide election victory for republicans in the fall (unless Biden went truly authoritarian and stopped the fall elections too). And it'd be obvious what would happen from there. I'm sorry but you just can't fight fascism with fascism. It doesn't work. You just get more fascism.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It’s a good thing I’m wrong then.