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During a recent episode of The Verge’s Decoder podcast, Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber shed some possible insight into the company’s view on one of its most important products. Saying that “the mouse built this house,” Faber shares the planning behind a Forever Mouse, a premium product that the company hopes will be the last you ever have to buy. There’s also a discussion about a subscription-based service and a deeper focus on AI.

For now, details on a Forever Mouse are thin, but you better believe there will be a catch. The Instant Pot was a product so good that customers rarely needed to buy another one. The company went bankrupt.

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[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They way I got introduced to hardware as a service is that it was a solution to planned obsolescence.

In theory, a hardware subscription means that if you pay for X months of that hardware, you gonna get it. Doesn't matter if it breaks, it should be replaced while your subscription lasts.

So taking that into account, the less the hardware breaks, the more profit they have. So not only should it eliminate planned obsolescence, it would make engineering for durable products an actually very profitable business.

[–] Masamune@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So, what is the difference between this approach and just selling an extended warranty?

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

With subscription you don't own the product, but also you don't pay up front.

With subscription, you should be able to buy as many months as you want. With extended warranty, I think companies usually only sell 1 extended warranty per item.

(I'm pulling the prices out of my ass, don't try to calculate which one is more "worth it".

Extended warranty:

30€ for the mouse (3 years warranty) 5€ 1 year extended warranty.

You are sure to have the item for at least 4 years. After that, you can use it until it breaks.

Subscription:

1€/month

You get to use the mouse for exactly the months you paid for. No more, no less

Also, with subscriptions you are likely to get a second hand item. But when you buy the item you are gonna get 1st hand unless you shop at Amazon.

I personally wouldn't buy a subscription, I prefer to own it. However, I'll admit that it's not black and white, and subscriptions also have some benefits.

Another way instead of per time window is per use. For example, in the case of a mouse, per clicks.

So if you buy 1.000.000 clicks and rarely use the computer, you get to own the mouse for a very long time for very cheap, just in case you ever want to use it. This is basically today's planned obsolescence, except the item doesn't become trash, the company would just reset the counter and you or the next client can keep using it. If you use it a lot, it's going to become real expensive real fast though.