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Anon finds a plot hole (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 4 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

wait until you look into the time travel stuff

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The time travel stuff functionally doesn't change anything. It's there to let you observe, not meddle, and ultimately results in a closed loop of causality.

Some of her better writing, tbf. If every book had been as good as Prisoner of Azkaban, I wouldn't feel like I wasted time finishing the last three in the series.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They do use it to meddle, though, its how the plot in "Prisoner of Azkaban" gets resolved. Also I'm pretty sure that Hermione mentions at one point that people have killed their past selves using time turners, which would not constitute a closed loop of causality.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They do use it to meddle, though, its how the plot in “Prisoner of Azkaban” gets resolved.

They don't violate causality. Everything they do during the time-turner is something that was preordained based on things they saw and did before they activated it. The only surprises are instances of incomplete information they had as characters.

Also I’m pretty sure that Hermione mentions at one point that people have killed their past selves using time turners, which would not constitute a closed loop of causality.

Sure, but that's never really explored beyond a one-liner from a grade school kid.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but that’s never really explored beyond a one-liner from a grade school kid.

I think the implications are explored in "Harry Potter and the cursed child", where causality does get violated.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ah, never bothered with that one.

Edit: looks like it is an "improved version". But also, they do end up resetting everything to the status quo regardless, so... Shrug