Genuine question, why peope don't want a patriarchal society but wish for a matriarchal one? Isn't it better to just have equality between all genders?

Don't get me wrong, I also don't want a patriarchal society and I understand what are the problems with it, but I never understood the desire to have a "main" gender

[–] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 64 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Form time to time, i encounter these dominant toxic woman. It's very rare compared to dominant toxic men, but just as annoying.

It's the toxic domination that we needs to be rid of.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. This post should be only taken as a joke.

[–] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 12 points 3 months ago

Too late. Already finished my dissertation on it.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 3 months ago

Honestly, this is just a joke of a post. You're right in that ideally there would be no gendered hierarchy at all. It just tends to be male gendered people that punch down.

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I haven't encountered people really advocating for a matriarchy (except the Barbie movie for some reason) so I don't really think it's a popular belief

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't the matriarchy in the barby movie done specifically to parody the patriarchy in real life?

They aren't so much advocating for it as using it as an obvious 1 to 1 allegory.

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but at the end of the movie they reinstate matriarchy and give kens a bit more power, and I found that to be such a 180

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yea, that movie didn't really explore the problems well, more of just made fun of the whole situation. I liked it about 1/5th as much as most, apparently.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want all the privileges of women. Let women have the ones of men and have them find out it sucks. (Half sarcastically)

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Both men and women have struggles. I wouldn't argue one has it worse than the other, just that both have problems and all those problems are awful. We should all be working to eliminate all of them.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago

People who honestly think this don't know history.

Throughout history, society has, when having an excess of young men gone to war to control their numbers. Yes there have been other reasons but having an excess of young, low education men is extremely destabilizing.

Having a matriarchal society doesn't necessarily mean that the male part of the population is suppressed or oppressed, but the few people that I have met that honestly think that replacing the current patriarchal system with a similar matriarchal society, also what men to "pay" for the historical treatment of women.

Having a large group of men that are low education, is such a bad idea, they are easily radicalized to do terrible things. Men will continue to be physically stronger than women, this fact along with radicalization would lead to massive societal problems.

What we need is too move further towards equality and equity, unfortunately boys are not doing well in schools girls are out performing them all over the board.

As an aside, years ago (on reddit) in a movie discussion someone asked why we don't see any "crazy ex-boyfriend" movies? When we see movies poking fun at "crazy" ex-girlfriends.
One insightful commenter replied: it is because ex-girlfriends are generally not a physical threat; there isn't really anything a girl can do to a boy, whereas "crazy" ex-boyfriends are a massive physical threat and therefore not funny, in the real world many murders are motivated by emotional issues and these are overwhelmingly committed by males against females.