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  • Funeral of Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh held in Tehran
    • Israel has not claimed responsibility for the assassination
    • Iranian officials to meet regional allies to discuss retaliation

DUBAI, Aug 1 (Reuters) - Top Iranian officials will meet the representatives of Iran's regional allies from Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen on Thursday to discuss potential retaliation against Israel after the killing of the Hamas leader in Tehran, five sources told Reuters.

The region faces a risk of widened conflict between Israel, Iran and its proxies after Ismail Haniyeh's assassination in Tehran on Wednesday and the killing of Hezbollah's senior commander on Tuesday in an Israeli strike on the outskirts of the Lebanese capital Beirut.

Representatives of Iran's Palestinian allies Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, as well as Yemen's Tehran-backed Houthi movement, Lebanon's Hezbollah and Iraqi resistance groups will attend the meeting in Tehran, said the sources, who declined to be named due to the sensitivity of the issue.

"Iran and the resistance members will conduct a thorough assessment after the meeting in Tehran to find the best and most effective way to retaliate against the Zionist regime (Israel)," said a senior Iranian official, with direct knowledge of the meeting. Another Iranian official said Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and senior members of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards will attend.

"How Iran and the resistance front will respond is currently being reviewed ... This will certainly happen and the Zionist regime (Israel) will undoubtedly regret it," General Mohammad Baqeri, Iran's armed forces chief of staff, told state TV on Thursday.

Iran and Hamas have accused Israel of carrying out the strike that killed Haniyeh hours after he attended the inauguration of Iran's new president in Tehran on Wednesday.

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They still killed one of the more moderate leaders of Hamas. I won’t weep for the guy but I just see this perpetuating the cycle of violence.

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Moderate?
The guy who lead Hamas when they threw Fatah officials off buildings and shot into crowds of their supporters?
That under him Hamas charter included this very moderate part

“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”

He wasn't a moderate in any way, and it's bizarre to see people referring to him in this way.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s all relative. The guy still sucks, but he was still a part of the wing of Hamas that is looking to negotiate.

Edit: also the Hamas charter was revised to remove that in 2017 when he took power as the chair of the Hamas political bureau. I’ll ask you this, do you honestly think his death will change anything? That another person won’t just step in his place and continue killing Israelis? That’s my point, this is a cycle that will just perpetuate. There are no actors in this with clean hands.

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

All the negotiations were approved by Sinwar in Gaza, who's supposedly the most fanatic one.

His death weakens them, although it's certainly not enough. But he's also not the only one they got to.
Hamas is close to losing their grip on Gaza. It will benefit everyone if they become irrelevant.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think what they mean is that as a leader, he does not really believe his own propaganda, so he can be pragmatic, but if you kill him, whoever succeeds him might be one of the guys who actually believed that fanatically. Or he really does believe that, given his history.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 2 months ago

If one of the guys who ordered the Oct 7th escalation was the only hope for peace in Gaza...I'm not sure there is any point in negotiating with hamas. Isn't there any leader in Gaza outside hamas?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

There have been atrocities for decades perpetuated by both Palestinians and Israelis. Some people that have done absolutely heinous things will need to be involved in the peace process for it to actually work considering those people are the ones perpetuating the cycle. Look at what happened with the Good Friday agreement in Northern Ireland and Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa (this one is far more one sided but still applicable).

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Good Friday agreement would not have been posible if Ireland was 20km away from London and smuggling in help from hostile actors.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The IRA was armed in part by Libya which was absolutely a hostile state in the UK’s eyes at the time. They almost killed Margaret Thatcher. They had many operatives in Great Britain, I don’t see how the Irish Sea significantly changes things considering there is a massive wall between Gaza and Israel that is easier to defend than thousands of miles of coastline.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 2 months ago

I did not know that, but still, those weapons were not 20km away from London. This is not just fascists in Israel, even the moderates feel too threatened to oppose the fascist narrative.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They bombed London during the troubles quite often, actually.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I quoted the 20km distance as the distance between Palestine's borders and major capitals in Israel, but yes, there were lots of bombings in Israel, but I guess they controlled that with the border walls and a police state...again...Ireland is easier to let go as a colony, not right on top of you.

Even if things never got as bloody as Palestine, everyone should still cherish the reasonableness in the Good Friday agreement.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

They haven’t let go of Ireland as a colony though.

I absolutely do cherish the GFA and I see how a bunch of stubborn, violent men had to get together and painstakingly iron out an imperfect peace to achieve it. I want the same for Israel and Palestine.

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