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Car Privacy is Shit (programming.dev)

submitted 3 months ago by ExperimentalGuy@programming.dev to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I wanted to get others' takes but it seems like the only real way to get a non-spying car is to get an older car without any sort of telemetrics. I saw a video about different car companies' security policies, well specifically the new Mental Outlaw video, and it just blew me away how even our cars aren't safe. Anyone got tips for how to anonymize their car?

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[–] __init__@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We need a wiki of EVs that.has a section on each model enumerating which components are used to spy on you and videos showing how to neuter them.

I have been thinking we need something like this but for all new vehicles, not just EVs. Like instructables but for how to locate and rip out the cellular radio/antenna on every make and model that has one.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Definitely. But its more complicated than that.

My understanding is that many cars store the information airgapped and then upload it to the dealer when the mechanic pluggs into the car doing routine service checks.

So we need the wireless/radio neutering, but also someone needs to hook up to the car and see if/what data can be leaked via hard wire. And possibly find ways to disable the sensors, send random/nonsense data, update the software to not store sensitve data, automatically wipe the data every time the car turns on, or at least document how to manually wipe the data when you pull into the shop for maintenance.

[–] __init__@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

Oof, yeah, didn’t think about that. Much more complicated.