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[–] palarith@aussie.zone 29 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Imho. We are too laissez faire about our dependence on computers.

Currently doing disaster planning for compliance. What I really want to put in the docs is “If power or internet goes down we are just fucked. No planning needed. “

[–] FalseMyrmidon@kbin.run 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean disaster planning is about finding ways to mitigate things like power or internet going down to minimize or eliminate their impact. That said, accepting the risk of downtime because alternatives are too expensive is a perfectly valid decision as long as it's an intentional one.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It depends on the industry. Some industries have very critical systems that can't go down period.

[–] FalseMyrmidon@kbin.run 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, in which case you wouldn't accept the downtime and would drop the cash on redundant systems.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

The more nines you add the more exponential growth you see in cost. This is because you end with lots of idling hardware.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Too cheap to buy UPS, generators and redundant fiber or something?

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

We are a small medical practice. It would cost approx $15k in batteries to give us about 3 operating hours. Not economically viable.

But do you think something like an airport would have enough diesel capacity to contiune operating in a power out?

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

UPS should only be sized enough for the generator power to spin up.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

If you are taking about human lives it could be important. Many hospitals spends a significant amount to make sure there isn't any downtime.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

Hospitals and airports typically have their own backup generators, yeah. Not entirely sure how long they're prepared to operate off-grid.

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

Also currently trying to get NIS2/27001 compliant before the October deadline hits? ^^

[–] Karmmah@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What would you suggest to solve this?

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Much, much more care should have being taken by all parties.

Microsoft should not have given kernel access to crowdstrike. Crowdstrike should not have being able to push a killing update.

Edit: Hindsight is 20 20

[–] Yoruio@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think a OS should ever be LESS open about what a user can do. It should be on the user to do their due diligence and have high availability systems setup.

Only reason Linux wasn't affected as much was luck. this could just as easily have happened to Linux systems if the broken update targetted Linux.

We (this community especially) criticize windows for not being more open like Linux, and all of a sudden we're saying it should've been more like Apple?

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

I don’t think a OS should ever be LESS open about what a user can do.

I feel blessed when a user can find the power on button.

all of a sudden we’re saying it should’ve been more like Apple?

Nope, all I am saying is care should scale with adoption.

"With great power comes great responsibility"