i started watching The Orville recently and while it is quite good and gets many parts absolutely bang-on, it does pain me that they didn't also take the opportunity to take themselves more seriously.

Like haha yes star trek has technobabble that makes no sense, very funny, but imagine how fucking good the show would have been if it took the action from stargate! Maybe they do so more in the later seasons, but in the early episodes there are several extended scenes where i just have to skip past it entirely because i can feel my soul exiting my body through my ears.

It's sad because right after those scenes that inflict profound suffering on me, they have things that make me feel genuine non-agonizing emotions. Bortus and Klyden are amazing characters with brilliant actors, and i wouldn't have ended up watching the show without them in it.