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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IPv6 doesn't need CGNAT. So as long as it's capable of doing IPv6, it can directly communicate peer to peer using globally unique addresses. How do I know this? Simple because my ISP on IPv4 is completely CGNAT and I cannot get anything past it. So I am completely forced to use IPv6 for any service I want to run and access from outside my network.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but ipv6 is not widely adopted. I'm behind a CG-NAT but can't get an ipv6 so I have to operate a vps bridge to host my services. Some cell networks have ipv6 support but a few implement a NAT for it as well. AT&T only allows port 80 and 443.

Its not consistent enough to be useful without a centralized relay.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think that really depends on where you are. Here in the US, for example, IPv6 is pretty darn well adopted. And even 45% of Google's internet traffic is done over IPv6.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure but if your looking to use a chat service, 45% is not a high enough watermark to have reliability. Its so contingent on the network operator to allow for an IPV6 connection. And like I said, places like AT&T have a NAT on their IPV6 network.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

True, the only other option is something like simplex through tor. There are also p2p options like meshtastic as well.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Non ipv6 parts of the internet are considered derelict at at this point.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

And... That doesn't change the fact it's not widely adopted enough for peer2peer chat services without the need of a relay.