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This is the indictment that those who were horrified by the events of Jan. 6, 2021, have been waiting for. The catalog of misdeeds that Donald Trump is accused of is extensive, some reflected in other prosecutions over classified documents and hush-money payments or in civil lawsuits.

Archive link: https://archive.ph/SKWzm

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[–] 2Xtreme21@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah they definitely will try to drag it out. Trump knows that his only surefire way out of this mess is to win the election.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

From the article

The charging decisions in the indictment reflect smart lawyering by the special counsel Jack Smith and his team. The beauty of this indictment is that it provides three legal frameworks that prosecutors can use to tell the same fulsome story.
It will allow prosecutors to put on a compelling case that will hold Mr. Trump fully accountable for the multipronged effort to overturn the election. At the same time, it avoids legal and political pitfalls that could have delayed or derailed the prosecution.

And further down

A conspiracy requires two or more people who agree to participate. This indictment lists but does not yet charge or formally identify six Trump co-conspirators. Mr. Smith clearly has enough evidence to charge those unindicted co-conspirators but has chosen not to — for now. This, too, is a smart tactical decision.

and in conclusion the author states

This indictment presents detailed and overwhelming allegations. It reflects sound legal and tactical decisions that should allow the government to move quickly and put on a powerful case.

It seems the feds already know exactly his his game, and wrote the indictment to head off as many avenues of delay that he may try to take.

Remember, Trump has decades experience fighting in civil court. Federal court is a very different ballgame.

[–] PantsOnHead@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is no doubt going to try spinning this into a talking point for his election campaign. The same old "they're only punishing me because they're crooked demonrats" and all that shit

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For sure. I am really still saddened that this works so well. Republicans are so tribal, it just doesn't matter what they have on him. Never has hit a point where "ok maybe a lot was political but this is overwhelming".

It's gotta be that the anger and hatred trump represents is core to their very being. They can't examine it. It would mean their whole life is flawed.

[–] pepperprepper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel this with my parents:/ Republicans used the abortion issue and it gets a lot of religious votes, and it works. Calling the democrats evil and saying they eat babies is something some of them really beleive in. So depressing.

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. Same. Mine don't even watch Fox News. But they talk to their friends who do and they're under the impression that the media has been out to get Trump and have treated him unfairly since day one. As if the media wouldn't crucify anyone who runs for president with decades of skeletons in their closet. My mother has heard trump say "grab them by the pussy" and thinks it's offensive to have an issue with that quote. The same person who grounded me for weeks for less. I got spankings for WAYYY less than this. Lost a ton of respect for my parents over this. The worst part? Anytime you present evidence against Trump, they don't just ignore its implications. They get very mad.

[–] pepperprepper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, are we siblings :) same exact shit. I was punished so hard for the tiny things I did wrong as a child. Always told I have to be better, and that being obsessed with money and leing is wrong. and then trump comes and its all ok and even a little funny. They wonder why my generation is disillusioned by organized religion.

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it definitely sounds like we were raised similarly. So weird that our parents and others don't see the contradiction!

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trump’s basic platform was ‘they’re all crooked and out to get us, you absolutely CANNOT trust them. I am the only one you can trust’. The people who bought that will deny any evidence you put in front of ‘em.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% he will, even if he has to "fire" is lawyers the day before the trial begins, which will automatically allow him an extension.

[–] andysteakfries@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

But then he's still got his Georgia mess and his NY State mess.

Not sure if there's anything cooking in Arizona or the Midwest states he tried to swindle votes from, but the chance is probably nonzero.