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I got a new job. whatsapp group (20 people) is migrating to signal because I don't use it. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago by GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I understand that it may be problematic sometimes but this was very smooth. I didn't even say anything.

A: what's your number for the whatsapp group Me: I don't have whatsapp because of facebook. B: ok, we have to use signal then A: ok

And that was it. Life can be very easy sometimes

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

…to which for privacy reasons your team shouldn’t like SMS, Discord, Telegram, Slack, and probably even Signal (somewhat for privacy, & more for accessibility)

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you recommend?

[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

XMPP. A business can self-host, there are public servers, or there are many businesses which offer customised xmpp hosting as a service.

I can be federated with other xmpp servers or be a locked-down work-only service, or federate with chosen other servers (such as a client company's xmpp servers).

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The main problem is, you need to have someone good enough to setup a proper firewall when selfhosting.

Sure, it might not take $$$$, but it will take $, which is definitely more than nothing.

[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

If that's the main problem then that's easy to solve! Simply use a free public xmpp server.

I mention the self- and paid-hosting options because businesses tend to like having a sevice agreement backed by a contract, and may have additional specialised requirements not provided by free services (xmpp or otherwise).

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Snikket exists for this type of user. If money is an issue, since XMPP is actually lightweight unlike Matrix, you can host multiple things even on the cheapest VPSs so it isn’t dedicated to one taskl or self-host out of your home (which is what I do, but also with some small sites, a feed aggregator, Mumble, terminal sharing, Darcs/Pijul version control systems, & Nix remote builder).

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Skill issue, not money issue.

But when you are a business, everything can be converted into a money issue.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

skill issue

I don’t understand how. Snikket is fully boxed up & preconfigured for the lazy, & offers straight-up hosting for the the even lazier.

I say lazy since setting up ejabbered is already easy to set up with sane defaults, a web admin UI, & availability in like every package manager.

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 0 points 2 months ago

fully boxed up & preconfigured for the lazy,

I see that as solving the skill and effort issue.