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[-] soiejo@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago

I dunno about worst, but I fucking hate 300. It tries so hard to insert Snyder's american fetishism in the setting that it quite literraly inverts reality to show the brave, patriot, manly, free, ~~christian americans~~ Spartans facing the evil, godless, deformed, queer, arabs.

Pesonally, I usually can ignore shitty politics when watching a good movie, and sometimes even good slop, but 300 even fails to be a good action movie because it had to add a shitty slow motion effect every time Zack Snyder jerks off to how smart he is

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

300 is so fucked up. Imagine presenting the Spartans as good guys after opening with a narrator telling us they murder any babies they see as imperfect.

[-] Staines@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

If you think that's bad, just read about how they treated their Helot slaves.

Mandatory ritualistic beating and shaming, and a yearly actual purge to keep them in line.

Spartans are about the most pathetic culture to have ever existed.

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Spartans are about the most pathetic culture to have ever existed.

They were also a bunch of idle fancy lads whose requirement for citizenship/personhood was literally "rich enough to come chill at the country club with the lads all day without ever having to work even a single day" while also being extremely greedy so that they'd buy up the land of anyone whose wealth dipped a little leading to their "eligible for military service" class consistently shrinking all the time to the point that they did major land redistribution twice in order to restore the size of their citizen class (since they were the only ones allowed to be "real" soldiers, as opposed to all the non-citizen light soldiers and enslaved canon fodder they also used).

And before you think "oh, so given their supposed martial prowess they were using that free time to stay in shape and do drills or something?" the answer is no, they were literally just hanging out drinking and eating at their rich boy clubs all day and their actual military performance was not measurably distinct from other Greek city states (including their neighbors) for most of their history, even though they liked to wank about how they were best and coolest because "remember Leonidas?" and shit, with only a pretty brief window where they seem to have actually started to try to live up to their own propaganda and managed to be a regional power before then failing again and rapidly diminishing to the point that the city of Sparta itself became lost and forgotten with the descendants of the Spartans reduced to just being some small time fishermen in a tiny village well before the Roman era.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

even though they liked to wank about how they were best and coolest because "remember Leonidas?"

Hellenistic grillman "made the winning touchdown that one time" energy.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

except he lost that one battle he's famous for. the greeks lost. as usual, we're celebrating losers.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

This is Sparta, I guess?

[-] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

IIRC there was some kind of reenactment of spartan life thing going on in sparta during the roman era. roman tourists would go and look at them "train".

absolutely pathetic.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

If I recall correctly, I think the chad who led the Persians through the mountain pass was a Helot.

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