But that's not because the structure of a co-op can't work or do good things. It's because the culture, zoning laws and regulations over there are UTTERLY FUCKED which means real change is slow as hell to realize, since it involves changing course on decades of legislation, and convincing a LOT of minds to look at home-ownership differently.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

HOAs are rare where I live, but we often have property management that oversees multiple units to take care of and fund common elements.

They're not all perfect, but most aren't nearly as bad as what I've heard about HOAs.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We have strata, or group ownership of the land and structure of a housing complex. Each owner owns what's inside the walls of their apartment but the strata owns rye rest and is jointly owned by all owners. Each pays a fee to cover maintenance, upkeep and a sinking fund for major repairs. It works pretty well, for the most part.

However there is quite an administrative burden and many homeowners dont want the hassle of doing the admin so the busybodies tend to do it and overstep their boundaries often. Many use an external company to manage it. The biggest company was just in the need today as it was fsvouring its own insurance product for all the buildings it manages. Conflict of interest for profit isn't quite the joint ownership plan strata envisions.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds similar to where I live. The busybodies can be annoying, and fraud (etc.) can be a problem. But I won't let perfect be the enemy of good to my opinion.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, definitely. But important to not have annidealised view of outcomes either. Realistic goals and expectations in real life as in gaming.