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[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 49 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Flawed. Here, you must insert a coin (or if you have it, a token with the shape of the coin) that will only be returned after you put the cart in the correct place.

So you actually lose something if you don't return the cart.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That doesn't mean the concept is flawed; it just means those businesses were smart enough to put in countermeasures against bad people.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It also means that the people who do leave the shopping cart in places without the deposit are the kind of cheapskates who can be bought for a euro. They're only neutral evil.

True chaotic evil assholes would pay the deposit on several carts only to leave them.

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That actually sounds like a hilarious way to spend 10$, especially when Aldi in the states still only requires a quarter

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 2 months ago

Then sit back and film the people returning the carts for the quarter. Put it on YouTube and profit.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They do this so they don't have to pay staff to return carts, one of many reasons Aldi is so cheap.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

"Cart returner" is not a job. It's a thing regular employees have to do because some folks choose to be lazy. If everybody would return their carts, these employees would simply work on other shit in the store like cleaning or re-arranging misplaced items. Leaving the cart does not create jobs, it makes existing jobs more tedious.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That means there were enough bad people that businesses wanted to purchase a lock token system at the expense of convenience of customers and overhead costs of their businesses

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Mhm. That said, only a few places around where I live have "coin operated" carts. I guess the places that do have them got tired of the selfish, inconsiderate sobs who didn't return the carts.

To me it feels so utterly strange to just dump a cart in the middle of a parking lot and, seemingly, think nothing of it.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

In the US Aldi requires a quarter. Depending on the area, there are absolutely people who will give up their 25 cents to not walk their lazy ass to return the cart.

Florida is full of inconsiderate selfish assholes.

[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Flawed. Here, you must insert a coin (or if you have it, a token with the shape of the coin) that will only be returned after you put the cart in the correct place.

I present you mankinds greatest invention:

[–] Banichan@dormi.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What, you gonna knock back some brews?

[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In case you weren't joking:

Look at the bottom part of it. You can insert it into the coin "slot" to unlock the cart and pull it out right after.

No more losing a tiny little plastic chip or searching for the right coin - especially if you prefer to pay without cash.

(Also, I do return my carts.)

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

on some carts there's a sliding door to insert the coin, and this wouldn't work

stock image because I couldn't find another one

[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I refuse to shop at those places.

Also, then this: https://dormi.zone/comment/6560360

[–] Banichan@dormi.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I could bend myself to say it is robotkinds greates invention.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Seeing guides and fake coins to trick it was pretty depressing.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like more work than just putting the cart back...

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Yep. I kinda dislike the idea of paid carts and am for pirating... But there it's paying or putting extra effort to make other people deal with your cart.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I have seen supermarkets with even stricter systems. I have seen carts with automated brakes/clamps. If you try to leave the supermarket with the cart, the wheels block. So you are forced to put your groceries in bags and carry the bags to the car.

The supermarket? Damn. I've seen that around the parking lot so that they can't be taken off the property, but outside of the building itself? Wow.

[–] Ninjasftw@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

My local has these but they only stop you from leaving through the entrance. If you leave through the checkout area you can take the trolly out

[–] cmder@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Where I shop there is the token system but you just have to ask the security agent to get a free token. So there is no need to return your cart because you can get a free token each time you got to the store.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s common in England, but a lot of larger shops don’t bother with that system.

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 6 points 2 months ago

It's the opposite here in Sweden, in some larger supermarkets you did need a coin but in no smaller shops

Anyways that's all gone now since no one carries coins anymore

[–] Banichan@dormi.zone 3 points 2 months ago

We don't do that here, that's mall-level bullshit.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd just not shop there. I never have change with me, and I'm not bringing change just because the store requires it. It might not be the first trip or the third, but over time, I'd shop there less and less because convenience matters.

[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then you'll either start bringing change, get a token that you can use, or starve. No supermarket here has "free" carts. The baskets are free, but they are smaller.

I'd probably just use a basket then, and buy less.