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[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Man, a lot of you Americans need to unionize. None of this happens at my work and it's precisely because we're unionized and have a contract that specifically says that our employer is bound by strict rules. Granted, we don't get a month paid vacation, but we can't be denied time off, can't be compelled to be on call, can't be forced to work overtime and we have PTO accounts, healthcare and a pension that get paid into on a weekly basis.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"but we get paid so much more" /s. I've heard this before from people in the tech sector, ignoring the fact that should the shit hit the fan we Americans have no social programs to assist us. I'd take half my pay to get what people in Europe are guaranteed.

[–] What083329420@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Recently saw a yt vid by David Wen, USA vs Dutch worklife, who took a 50% paycut for a healthy work-life balance.

[–] Torvum@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We try and then it's taken over by corrupt lazy union bosses that don't actually help or the company just fires you under an at will employment lie and hires scabs. The government has essentially been infiltrated by corporate American to pass legislation allowing them to break unions easier. Lobbying is our problem, not the lack of unions atm.

Over half of Congress would be indicted on corruption if we really gave a shit about threats to our society like the current political theatre claims.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's nice to see the latest upswing in labor actions in the US, but the labor movement isn't what it used to be that's for sure. Even the way the history of labor is taught now is completely whitewashed and decoupled from any notion of class conflict. Take the history of civil right's organizers for instance and the connection with labor, MLK is the big one but also Randolph, the famous "I Have A Dream" speech at the March on Washington ("-for Jobs and Labor" is usually left out of the title nowadays.) Also the Jim Crow order is purely seen as a racist order, which is accurate, but the means by which it was designed to deal with the Populists in the late 19th century because of the threat they were as a political force. It's even in the culture war shit that goes on now, Bud Light for instance, none of that "conversation" ever touched on the fact they were basically forced to first hire queer people because of Teamsters labor pressure and gay bar boycotting their beer.

I think the militant conflicts like Harlan country are pretty well known but again it's like the class notions are removed in today's recollections and how it's taught. It's focused on some individuals who wanted better wages vs the bad guy running the mine, not about the inherent conflicts between these workers and the owners by design of the economic system, and how that still pervades today. It's seen as something from the past.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That's objectively bullshit that is given the lie by the fact that unionized workers, on average, are far better paid and have much better benefits than their non-union equivalents.

You clearly know next to nothing about union organizing and are spouting a bunch of bullshit disinformation that's been fed to you by big money interests.

Is that your fault? No, not really. You've been fed a metric shitload of bullshit all your life and you have never been told the truth and as such can't be blamed for your ignorance.

The truth is that under the NLRB --and the Biden NLRB is the most labor-friendly in living history-- you have the right to organize and cannot legally be fired for doing so and if you are, you have grounds for a lawsuit that plenty of non-profit attorneys will help you prosecute on principle.

[–] Batman@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just to fight against the hive mind that America is a uniform hell scape. People from my team routinely dip with only a few days notice for vacations and sometimes because they feel like they need a day off.

Frankly I don't take my PTO but that's more of a personal problem than my work's. I was a workaholic through college because frankly I'm not outstandingly smart.