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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Humanity is in mortal danger because of conservatism. If you aren't fighting conservatism, you aren't fighting climate change.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, liberalism, while far better isn't remotely close to being an adequate solution, but we all need to kick the can down the road by picking whatever least bad option is available to us.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well, that's the funny bit: the government in the UK aren't the Conservatives, they're New Labour who are Neoliberals, by the standards of the rest of Europe they're even Hard Neoliberals.

Nowadays the difference between Conservatives and Liberals is really just the subset of Morality that's used in Identity Politics. They're certainly not different on Economics, not on Quality Of Life for the many, not on a good Future for our Children (which provides a Selfishness-driven reason be an Environmentalist, which is better than nothing) and certainly not on Environmentalism as a Moral posture.

We get some loud confrontational bullshit from both around various "-isms" all the while they're both doing what's best for the most wealthy of society and screw the rest (both present and future) and definitely screw anybody or anything that has no money and no capability for action, such as Nature.

You see that exact same shit in the US, by they way, as well as (in not quite as extreme form) in most of Europe.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Neolibs sell us out to big oil just as much as neocons do. The root problem is capitalism. You cannot fight against climate change without fighting against capitalism

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Neoliberals are conservatives. Sadly, we do not have a progressive party in the U.S., so we must choose one of the conservative parties.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

If you aren't fighting conservatism you are actively destroying the planet.