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So, where exactly are smokers supposed to smoke then when pretty much everywhere indoor smoking is already banned??

[-] HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago

That's the idea. They aren't.

[-] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

As much as I like the idea of getting rid of smoking altogether, this is a huge infringement on self-determination. Sure, go ahead and declare certain public areas as non-smoking zones. I'm absolutely fine with that. Even if it means that the entire inner city is such a zone. No one should have to inhale secondhand smoke. But if you're somewhere where you don't bother anyone, why should that be illegal?

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Even if you're alone, where are you throwing the butt? The answer is: the ground. The ground is absolutely full of cancer sticks. And I see the city's cleaning machines clean the entire streets at least once a day. It's still full of the things.

[-] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 15 hours ago

Back when I smoked I'd extinguish the cigarette and wait until I found a trash can. And I know plenty of people who do the same. Unfortunately plenty of other people don't and it sucks.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

One sole cigarette butt contaminates around 800 litres of water. Just insane.

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 2 days ago

At home, in private lodgings and dedicated smoking areas.

This is one thing once more which would be a non issue if it weren't for the people who throw their stubs everywhere and blow smoke in the faces of others.

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[-] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

The article says the focus is on kid-friendly outdoor areas like parks and near schools, which makes total sense as a place to start. Doesn't seem like it's everywhere outside being banned. And generally encouraging people to not take up smoking in the first place is wonderful. For people who smoke, quitting is the biggest thing they can do to improve their health.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

This is a good compromise. I understand cafés wanting to be able to have their guests smoke at the tables on the street, and frankly if someone is walking the street at night by himself i couldn't care less whether he smokes as long as the remains are put in the trash.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

they should get a person sized air tight box, get inside, smoke as much as they'd like. but they shouldn't be allowed to open the box again because i don't want that shit going outside.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 8 points 2 days ago

The article uses the phrase “key outdoor areas” so I would assume this means you can’t smoke in a crowded plaza but you can still do so on your own balcony or whatever.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Nowhere; it's bad for you and others

[-] oberstoffensichtlich@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Lots of bad things are legal.

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[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Don't, shit is nasty

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

I don't know, sounds like their problem.

Picking up smoking is a conscious decision.

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