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Image is of China's ambassador to Afghanistan, Zhao Sheng, meeting Taliban Prime Minister Hasan Akhund in September 2023.

I know the Rambo title card is a hoax.

The COTW was chosen in the wake of the aborted sequel to the attempted assassination of Trump being performed by a guy who is VERY enthusiastic about Ukraine, to the point of trying to sneak Afghan soldiers into Ukraine by setting up a house in Pakistan to house them and then further transport them. He also apparently offered to send thousands of Afghan soldiers to Haiti to help them combat gang violence. Whomst among us doesn't have the numbers of thousands of Afghan soldiers on speed-dial. Do you reckon there's a group chat?

Anyway, while there is still no official recognition of the Taliban's government by any country, China has taken a different course than the late USSR and the US - forming economic in-roads, rather than trying their own invasion. This has been a big boon for the struggling country, with various mines and oil and agriculture deals helping keep things barely afloat. A total disintegration of the social fabric of Afghanistan is not in the interest of any of the powers that border it - China, Pakistan, and Iran, with Russia not too far away - so an interesting dynamic of helping-without-official-recognition has been established. I wonder who will be the first country to fully recognize them?


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[–] Kolibri@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

I want to to prose a rule for no defeatism? and also for "nothing ever happens" stuff? I dunno how to word that properly for the best so if someone knows how to word it better? but it is really annoying seeing others saying nothing ever happens, when things are always happening, and trivializing things as if all of this is entertainment. Then there the defeatist side of stuff to where I understand the grief that comes from these things, but to say everything is all over isn't right. It's also very disrespectful to, like for example, towards everything the axis of resistance has done

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

defeatism

the news mega should try to provide clear-eyed and varied analysis; to insist that everything is going to plan, and to restrict posts to only those that take an optimistic-spin on world events, would be QAnon-esque cope, imho.

[–] Kolibri@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don't think it's fair to compare it to QAnon-esque cope. Perhaps an alternative would maybe be requiring a cw spoiler tag then for very defeatist stuff?

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A content warning for "defeatism?" I'm sorry, but isn't this a bit silly?

Frankly, the left loses a lot more often, and for a lot longer, than it wins, and it's not defeatist to face up to that fact or to express frustration with it.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No, there's a difference between discussing the Ls and thinking the cause is lost with just one L. And most of the time, the doomerism is entirely unwarranted. People were losing their shit when Ukraine launched their doomed excursion into Russian territory and despite the repeated assurance from more sober minded people that the excursion was doomed, too many people were losing their shit and spreading doomer takes until it turned out Ukraine predictably wasn't able to do what the Swedes, French, and Germans failed to do.

Doomerism is technically reactionary. There's a reason why revolutionary optimism is a thing, why "pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will" gets repeated. In regards to the pager attack, this is fine while this is doomer nonsense. Someone personally feeling emotionally distraught over an L doesn't give them license to dump those negative feelings onto the rest of us. Those negative emotional dumping almost never comes with analysis anyways, certainly not good analysis.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

People were losing their shit when Ukraine launched their doomed excursion into Russian territory and despite the repeated assurance from more sober minded people that the excursion was doomed

I am once again asking news mega posters to read clausewitz

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I am not here to be a government spokesman. Posting about the news, especially during the second nakba is necessary even if it is demoralizing.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If Iran and Hezbollah don't attack Israel in the next few hours, they will have essentially surrendered.

This is absolutely news and not just you giving your hot doomer take on the situation.

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[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

You are one of the biggest culprits of out of pocket dooming. It’s not analysis to whine that the world is doomed

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

As someone whose phone occasionally heats up, all I can say is that we need to put down the copium. If Israel can do this, so can the CIA. It is highly likely that the age of mass communication is about to functionally end as soon as we reach the societal breakdown stage of late capitalism. As for Lebanon itself, it will likely collapse before Israel does. The zionists likely plan to genocide everyone within the borders of greater israel.

This you? Can you point me to where the "news" is here? Looks a lot like Nostradamus doom saying and reading tea leaves to me.

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[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

maybe not a fair characterization.

i should still not like doomer stuff to be removed by the mods; other posters and the community at large should be responsible for correcting and responding as necessary -- as Harry notes, we lose all the time, and its good practice to notice this and find the strength and support to keep the faith up.

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[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except the cope is coming from the doomers, who pop into this thread every time Ukraine has a PR victory to gloat/whinge. It’s a purely emotional and selfish reaction, not analysis

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

You are jumping at shadows if you think there is some horde of ukraine-NAFO doomers waiting to pounce on these threads. I've read every post in the newsmegas since the beginning. Idiots stumble in, to be sure, but it is not a meaningful pattern.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Nothing ever happens" is undialectical. The dialectic is ever in motion. What seems like nothing happening is actually contradictions pushing against each other towards a temporary equilibrium, but one contradiction will eventually overcome the other.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

A little defeatism is good for discussion. Denouncing defeatism can really be uplifting. Having doubts is fair and rational. If you don't voice your fears how are your comrades supposed to help you see that your fears are unfounded?

"nothing ever happens" bugs me because the idea is founded in western chauvinist comfort. "nothing ever happens to me" while every day there is another massacre in Palestine.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don't believe in the "nothing ever happens" nonsense, things change.

But I look at 2014 headlines on Israeli crimes in Gaza, it's the same shit repeating at a larger scale.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Don’t read anything from the 20th century on Palestine because it’s the same thing all the way down

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Same thing happening synthesis

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My only ~~problem~~ concern with this is that defeatism is extremely subjective. Every NAFO shithole on the Internet strictly moderates "defeatism" and the end result is a perspective completely detached from reality. On here, people will make shitposts (e.g. a day or two after the occupation of Kursk, someone was like "has anybody told Putin about this yet") and people will get really bent out of shape over inconsequential banter.

I think, foremost, we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously. Whether we are blooming or dooming, it is not like the Axis of Resistance is loading up Hexbear dot net every day and taking cues from our big brain analysis. The Russian MOD isn't reading our shitposts to decide where to commit their resources. The soldiers of Hezbollah and Ansarallah are not going to be deterred from the righteous path because a handful of westoids are suddenly feeling uneasy. BRICS isn't going to unravel just because there are skeptics of dedollarization among us.

We should deter outright panic, but this is a news discussion forum and let me tell ya, most of the news is bad. eric-andre The global workers movement has already been defeated. We are only now, two generations later, beginning to claw our way out of the tomb we were buried in at the end of the cold war, and there are still many setbacks ahead of us.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

can we at least agree to remove top level comments like this:

As someone whose phone occasionally heats up, all I can say is that we need to put down the copium. If Israel can do this, so can the CIA. It is highly likely that the age of mass communication is about to functionally end as soon as we reach the societal breakdown stage of late capitalism. As for Lebanon itself, it will likely collapse before Israel does. The zionists likely plan to genocide everyone within the borders of greater israel.

This is pretty cut and dry defeatism, without adding any type of factual analysis.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, there are a handful of egregious examples like this. Even this comment though, has the potential for some fruitful analysis if it weren't such a low effort throwaway.

As for Lebanon itself, it will likely collapse before Israel does.

You could make this argument. The Lebanese Republic is deeply dysfunctional and probably moribund, with or without Israeli intervention, whereas "Israel," even at the bottom of the deepest crisis in its history, with the overwhelming support of the US and it's lousy dogs, has already survived long past its expiration date.

But there are a lot more details to the way this will play out than the picture this poster is painting. The weakness of the Lebanese state is a significant factor in why Hezbollah is able to take matters into their own hands in the first place. Considering Hezbollah is significantly more powerful than the Lebanese army, and politically more coherent (in the literal sense) than the Republic, whatever happens to the government in Beirut seems kind of immaterial as far as "Israel" achieving its objectives goes. They aren't going to just march north and expand "Greater Israel." They are going to face intense resistance, in greater numbers, with greater armaments than they have in Gaza, which they still haven't managed to pacify.

So yeah, the "state of Israel" very well might outlive the state of Lebanon, but so will Hezbollah, so what changes exactly?

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would not be surprised if this user doesn’t realize Hezbollah and the Lebanese government are different entities. The commonality in these overly broad doom prophecies is a lack of granular detailed knowledge.

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[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Re boredom: I demand they use more emojis in their posts. That's all. They can keep the doom-posting bc that means we get to meme in the replies.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

was that Boredom? I've been seeing a lot of questionable takes from that one

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They wanted China to annex a part of Myanmar and not even the part of Myanmar that's right next to China but the part of Myanmar that borders Thailand.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes it was, of “evo morales is a coca addict who legalized child labor and I don’t even want to KNOW his opinion on the age of consent” fame

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[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My solution is just to block the whiny "doomer" types who think they know better than Hezbollah about how to liberate West Asia.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do that as you like, but I don't want to rely on individuals ruggedly bootstrapping their block system to make this community usable

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I think we should only ban racist comments, posters that frequently misgender others, and spam posts.

I don't want this place to become an echo chamber. If someone makes debunked or blatantly bigoted idea posts (example I saw here: "native Americans should let bygones be bygones so we can build socialism") we should be able to have them banned on a case by case basis.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately blocking is really buggy on this site and if a blocked user responds to a comment, all replies to that comment become hidden

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No wrongthink guys

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

woke: Blooming

broke: Dooming

bespoke: Zooming