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10-year-old Fatima Jaafar Abdullah was killed in pager explosions in Lebanon.

Israel murders another kid again.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Is it OK for a nation state to plant bombs in suspected opponents and then explode them at random without respect for collateral damage? If Russians did the same to Americans, you'd be all "fair play, mate"?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If Russians did the same to Americans, you’d be all “fair play, mate”?

At wartime, sure. Using explosives on enemy combatants outside of military-exclusive areas is not inherently a war crime.

Israel is in the wrong here because it's part and parcel of their continuing strategy of escalation in service to Netanyahu's forever war so he can stay in power, and the collateral damage is thus pointless from any perspective except that of keeping an authoritarian in power.

They're not in the wrong because they chose explosives as their choice of attack against Hezbollah. Unless it comes out that their distribution of rigged pagers was utterly untargeted or something of the sort. Which I would not discount the possibility of, considering Israel's history, but doesn't seem to be the case according to what's come out so far.

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If there were an anti-Russian militia that set up shop in America and occasionally attacked Russia and Russia figured out a way to target many members of this militia and a few innocent bystanders were also injured or killed, the rest of the world would say "yeah... that is what you get" and Americans would say "Why are we allowing these armed assholes to set up shop in America and attack Russia?"

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

You really believe this is is how it would play out? Astounding...

[–] PiousAgnostic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lol, if there was an anti-anybody militia that sometimes acted against other states within the US. The US would raid their complex, set it on fire, and shoot people trying to escape.

Then, the government would blame the children and other non-combatants' deaths on the militia. The public then will watch documentaries made on the subject over dinner.

Pager bombs aimed at extremists are not an American concern. Even if there was a level of non-combatant causilities. If anything, it's a fun news blip of the week and will be forgotten in less than a month.

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks Broseph. I totally agree with your response. I was doing my best to provide a proper analogy to db0's question: "If Russians did the same to Americans, you’d be all “fair play, mate”?"