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Israeli Minister of Education Suggests Lebanon Will Be “Annihilated” (truthout.org)

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There was no hint of de-escalation as Israeli warplanes bombed a residential area of Beirut on Friday, killing at least 31 people, including multiple Hezbollah commanders, and wounding at least dozens of others. Lebanon’s Ministry of Health said that the dead include three women and seven children.

During a Saturday television interview, Israeli Minister of Education Yoav Kisch falsely proclaimed that “there is no difference between Hezbollah and Lebanon.”

“The way things are progressing at the moment, Lebanon will be annihilated,” he vowed. Pressed on the genocidal implications of the word “annihilated,” Kisch said, “Lebanon as we know it will not exist.”

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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Israel is the one that has repeatedly targeted civilians

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The doctrine is named after the Dahiya suburb of Beirut, where the Lebanese paramilitary group Hezbollah has its headquarters, which the Israeli military leveled during its assault on Lebanon in the summer of 2006 that killed nearly 1,000 civilians, about a third of them children, and caused enormous damage to the country’s civilian infrastructure, including power plants, sewage treatment plants, bridges, and port facilities.

It was formulated by then-General Gadi Eisenkot when he was Chief of Northern Command. As he explained in 2008 referring to a future war on Lebanon: "What happened in the Dahiya quarter of Beirut in 2006 will happen in every village from which Israel is fired on… We will apply disproportionate force on it (village) and cause great damage and destruction there. From our standpoint, these are not civilian villages, they are military bases… This is not a recommendation. This is a plan. And it has been approved.” Eisenkot went on to become chief of the general staff of the Israeli military before retiring in 2019.

While it became official Israeli military doctrine after Israel’s 2006 attack on Lebanon, Israel’s military has used disproportionate force and targeted Palestinian, Lebanese, and other civilians since Israel was established in 1948 based on the ethnic cleansing of indigenous Palestinians, including dozens of massacres to force them to flee for their lives.

The Dahiya Doctrine & Israel’s Use of Disproportionate Force

Not to mention that Hezbollah only exists because of Israel

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The 1982 Lebanon war began on 6 June 1982, when Israel invaded again for the purpose of attacking the Palestine Liberation Organization. The Israeli army laid siege to Beirut. During the conflict, according to Lebanese sources, between 15,000 and 20,000 people were killed, mostly civilians.

On 16 February 1985, Shia Sheik Ibrahim al-Amin declared a manifesto in Lebanon, announcing a resistance movement called Hezbollah, whose goals included combating the Israeli occupation. During the South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000) the Hezbollah militia waged a guerrilla campaign against Israeli forces occupying Southern Lebanon and their South Lebanon Army proxies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict

[+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did you not know that Lebanon kills civilians all the time? Literally, they fired artillery and rockets at civilian targets on Oct 8th. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)

Like honestly, you seem well informed. Are you deliberately ignoring what Hamas and Hezbollah does?

[–] filister@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you not know that Israel kills civilians, and guess what, Israel is responsible for the killing of a lot more civilians than Hezbollah and Hamas together. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#:~:text=According%20to%20B'tselem's,been%20killed%20by%20Palestinian%20forces.

So it is very disputable if Israel has the moral high ground on this.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, I don't ignore the actions of Hezbollah or Hamas. Its a bad situation all around. I recognize that violence doesn't come out of nowhere, there are underlying causes and historical context. Fundamentally, all people are created equal, and all people deserve equal rights. Israel is a violent ethnostate founded on ethnic cleansing and Settler Colonialism. A lasting peace requires a regime change that replaces that with a secular One-State that gives equal rights to the indigenous Palestinian people. Instead, Israel is engaged in the genocide of Palestinians. Zionism is incompatible with human rights and it always has been.

Edit: if you disagree with any of that, explain why. Violence doesn't come out of nowhere. It comes from either dehumanization and exploitation or as a reaction to violence

[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

#1. Israel is the aggressor. The state has been imposed on the people of the middle east through violence. #2. Through US support, Israel is the most powerful country in this conflict. They therefore have the moral responsibility to act in a way to promote peace #3. Hamas and Hezbollah are not terrorist organizations. They're legitimately part of their respective government's #4. Any act you've been told is a terrorist act by those two organizations was very likely legal under international law. Israel is an occupying force. People are legally allowed to fight that force through violence.