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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I can guarantee you that there are conditions when sun and wind aren't producing a thing or very low output, like during night you are at mercy of wind (hydro is another story, is more stable but even there we experience droughts). So, what do you do when all three (night, no wind and drought) hit you like for a week?

Edit: typo

[–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the EU, hydrogen. Either by fuel cell or burnt in hydogen ready NG plants. Wouldn't be my first choice but thats whats gonna happen.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Could be, however hydrogen is really tough to handle plus green generation is around 50% efficiency (something like that). Also imagine having huge hydrogen volume and there is a spark...

[–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well... It's the current strategy.

Also, the same could be said about NG [efficiency about 30%-55% and also a little bit flameable].

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Strategy doesn't mean it will be actually implemented or it's the best. For example, Ursula instructed the transportation guy to try to implement Hyperloop. Shall I say more? :) There is also strategy to ditch fossil fuel cars soon....

[–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now you are getting away from arguments...

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You think? I'm saying that we can have a strategy, but that doesn't guarantee the outcome. Again, show me a city scale energy storage today. So, until we have one, it's vaporware. Basically this strategy is based on what exactly? Hope?

[–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The strategy is being implemented, infrastructure being build. Electrolysers and hydrogen ready NGs are planed and build. New NG infrastructure is hydrogen ready. What else are you expecting? Should things magically materialise?

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let's continue the conversation after a couple of years?

[–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Awesome, I win! But seriously, I do hope we pull something off ASAP, being hydrogen or some sort of battery or whatever.

[–] Hugohase@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Have you read the article? Hydrogen is developed... fast...