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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Trump laid blame for the conflict on President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, his Democratic rival in November. He said Biden “egged it all on” by pledging to help Ukraine defend itself rather than pushing it to cede territory to Russia.

“Biden and Kamala allowed this to happen by feeding Zelenskyy money and munitions like no country has ever seen before,” Trump said.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why didn't he resolve the conflict during his presidency?

Or we also believe him that it didn't exist when he was president? His first impeachment was for blocking already approved aid.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He thinks it all works on respect. That Putin wouldn't have done it because of respect.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I think just the opposite. he won’t say it directly but if you put all the pieces together he's saying we shouldn't care about ukraine and he would have just let Russia take it. That's probably why Putin decided to strike while trump was in office.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Two different things. He, like mob bosses, demand respect and all that.

And he doesn't care about Ukraine. So he'll serve it up on a platter.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Given he wants to dismantle NATO... you're probably right

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Trump needs to play less GTA2.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 24 points 1 month ago

It's great when his arguments only strengthen my resolve to stand with Democrats in supporting Ukraine.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

"they didn't extort ukraine for oppo research hard enough!"

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

feeding Zelenskyy money and munitions like no country has ever seen before

Except the Soviet Union during WW2. But we all know Trump is on the wrong side of that one too.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Have you heard the joke?

Putin summons the ghost of Stalin. "Help me Stalin, I'm having trouble with nazis".

Stalin says "Just do what I did. Send in your best troops, the Ukrainians, and ask the US for supplies."

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

A lot of Russian "tankies" believe this unironically tho - that Putin should demonstratively purge the corrupt high command (which really is corrupt), nationalize our heavy industry such as car manufacturers, and force mobilize the masses to work on those plants, because otherwise we are at a real risk of losing to some stupid khokhols and their american overlords.

They don't understand that Putin runs on personal loyalty first and foremost and purging anyone for mere corruption and incompetence is unthinkable (he is merciless to people he sees as traitors however). It's not how the system works at a fundamental level