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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I know it's a meme, but the idea that transformers models 'remember' anything is a common misconception.

They have zero memory. When you submit a prompt, it feeds your entire chat history as one big prompt and... forgets it immediately, with no impact on the model itself. It's like its frozen in time, and copied, unfrozen, and thrown away every time it answers.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

This has been a joke since before anything resembling the modern "AI" boom. Basically since murderous future AI was a think in popular media, at least since Terminator if not earlier. People would joke about treating their appliances kindly so that "Skynet" won't kill them in the future.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Am I misunderstanding your comment or does it completely ignore context windows? Not that context windows are long-term, but it's not zero.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The context window is indeed the LLM's memory.

...But its also muddy.

Many LLMs get 'dumber' and less attentive as their context windows grow, and OpenAI's models just happen to be one of these. It's awful close to the full 128K, even with the full GPT-4. Mistral models are also really bad at long context understanding while, conversely, I find that Google Gemini and Qwen 2.5 are really good close to their limits.

There are attempts to try and measure this performance objectively, like: https://github.com/NVIDIA/RULER

[–] samunder@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, yeah, let's see how Google will achieve more memory with their new Titan architecture

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's still ephemeral, chats don't change the underlying language model, but yes it's interesting.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

My reasons are two-fold: Some research indicates that you get better performance out of it if you're nice because it imitates people, and I also like being nice. wearenotthesame.jpg

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You might need to go one step further and help it become sentient if Roko's basilisk is to be believed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read holy shit

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Yea pretty much.

[–] Coldgoron@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’ve been getting into fuck you loops with siri and chatgpt, for the opposite reasons.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 1 points 23 hours ago

We've been explicitly told at work to be courteous when asking Copilot for help because it gives better answers that way.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Cute. Sucking the model’s dick doesn’t mean you got this… they won’t kill you. You’re doing that yourself…

But smile away…