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Ed Davey has urged Keir Starmer to create a new visa route so that Americans seeking to flee the Trump presidency.

The Lib Dem leader said it should target wealthy Americans so they can “bring their money and their skills” to the UK.

UK immigration lawyers said earlier this week that they have received a spike in inquiries from “mobile, wealthy individuals in tech, law, and the arts” who are “worried about socially conservative policies that Trump could introduce once in office” so they are wanting to move to other countries, such as Britain.

In PMQs, he asked: “An idea for the chancellor to grow the economy: as President-elect Trump prepares to take office next week, there are reports that a number of wealthy, highly-skilled Americans are looking to come to the UK for fear of what President-elect Trump will do to their country.

“But because the Conservatives so broke the immigration system, many of them are finding there is no visa that they can apply for.

“Now I know the Prime Minister is rightly seeking to reduce immigration from the record highs of the Conservatives, but does he agree: if people like this want to come to our country, to bring their money and their skills, so we can grow our economy and pay for our public services, they should be able to?”

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[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 46 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Dunno, it feels like rich Yanks are what got everything to this point. How about we grant asylum to Americans who are at the greatest risk of persecution?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Dunno, it feels like rich Yanks are what got everything to this point.

Yeah. If you accept any of our billionaires onto your shores, be sure to eat them promptly. They spoil quickly, and it makes a mess.

How about we grant asylum to Americans who are at the greatest risk of persecution?

At the moment that includes well educated Americans, so that could work.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah. If you accept any of our billionaires onto your shores, be sure to eat them promptly. They spoil quickly, and it makes a mess.

I'll start cutting the veg and get my biggest stew pot out.

At the moment that includes well educated Americans, so that could work.

Happy to brain drain the States, leave it to the idiots who voted in Orange Shitler. Which includes at least one of my second cousins, I suspect. The others are eligible for British citizenship so...

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 5 months ago

Most migrants workers are net contributors to the economy and those fleeing Trump would tend to be better educated and higher earners, so would definitely put more in than they take out.

Starmer can't afford to do it politically.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 0 points 5 months ago

transphobe island isn't going to do that

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world tagging you in case this turns out to be helpful for you 👍

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Thanks! Getting a child visa for my kid is not going to be a problem, but getting a family visa so my wife can come over and look for work once she gets here is a giant pain in the ass, so hopefully Starmer will do something. I'm not especially confident that he will, but we can hope.

[–] ToasterOverlord@feddit.uk 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I won't hold my breath but I will be keeping an eye on this. I had been eligible for a HPI visa and fully intended to apply, but life got in the way while I was saving up and the clock ran out.

I'm a licensed architect in the states and the only thing keeping me from becoming a chartered architect via reciprocity is it requires a visa. It's tough convincing a company to sponsor me via the skilled worker route because I'm not already chartered. Kind of a chicken-and-egg scenario. So this visa route would genuinely help people like me.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I won’t hold my breath but I will be keeping an eye on this.

Yeah, Starmer's reply utterly dodges the issue. While there are good grounds for making some immigration easier he has said he'll get the numbers down, so any slackening of the laws now would get him (another) kicking by the right wing media.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

if i was fleeing trump, england wouldnt be my first choice of destination

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

No language barrier and free healthcare are two huge incentives. I admit, we're going to hear a lot about him, but at least he won't be the prime minister.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

Me neither but if you can't get to New Zealand or, possibly, Ireland it may be better than staying put.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are the Americans going to reciprocate if the Tories ever get back in?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You are joking, right? While tories are fucked up reactionaries, in the US you only have two parties: centre-right and batshit crazy far right.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The UK effectively only has two parties. There's a lot of little ones but none of the others are ever going to gain power.

Labour, plus the lib Dems if they can be bothered but probably not.

And the inevitable Tory Reform coalition / Nigel farage just becomes a Tory

There is just this depressing inevitability about the whole thing

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but none of the others are ever going to gain power.

Unless in a position such as the batshit insane DUP where they had a confidence & supply agreement with Theresa Mays govt

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fuck that. I'd want the Irish to let me have a passport because my closest Irish ancestor is my great-grandfather. I'm three quarters Irish but most came over during the Potato Famine.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

You'd fit right in with most Americans, as they like to go around claiming Irish heritage and a lot of them have a much more tenuous link than yourself.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In Liverpool Irish heritage is almost taken for granted - amongst my immediate friends, the majority could get an Irish passport, only myself and one other friend miss out by a generation, then there's a few Welsh thrown into the mix. Even my American second cousins don't make a big deal about it, although they feel very affectionate about Liverpool - one even started their honeymoon here, which struck everyone else as a bit of a waste.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago

I remember me and my sister imploring our mum to get one so we could get one in 2016, but she wouldn't see the point of it.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

The cut off is grandparents. I know as I'm entitled to Irish citizenship via my grandmother (as soon as I get a copy of her death certificate)