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Year of the ~~Linux Desktop~~ Fediverse!

Side note, DAE find calling them "normies" kinda icky? It's like straight outta 4chan

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[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think that it was less: let's find alternatives, than it was fuck you government TikTok isn't Chinese enough. It was a direct answer to the government telling us which social media apps we were allowed to use. Also, 100% avoidable if they'd passed data protection instead. It really felt like the government enforcing private interests on its citizens.

Americans typically don't like the government telling us what to do. It's all fine if Facebook buys all the competition, but it's another thing when the government makes the competition illegal because they won't sell to zuck or musk.

Honestly, Redbook was sort of neat. I doubt it has much staying power as it was really just a protest, but it was sort of a historical feeling moment.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

power users/businesses: "you can't go VIRAL on mastodon"

Regular Users: "yOu HaVe To PiCk A sErVeR?????"

[–] P4ulin_Kbana 31 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Fediverse fanboys when they realise that their obscure and socially complex software isn't know by many people specially outside of the tech bubble, and that it's not the same experiences that they will get with known platforms:

edited Gru with an uncanny smile

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

known platforms

I seriously doubt that people 'knew' about some random app that isn't even translated all the way.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

You should try this new messenger app.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The obscurity and social complexity is the whole reason I'm here haha. My hope is that even if/when fedi apps become the standard, we'll still have ways to curate ourselves into small corners as that's just way nicer.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

That's why I subscribe not to topics, but to interests. It doesn't solve the problem but it puts me with more interesting content and like-minded people, hopefully. Then again I don't want to be in a bias bubble...

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think you can localize to a language. You localize to a region, you translate to a language. Localization goes beyond mere translation, they are different concepts.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 3 hours ago

We call both localization, because what you're doing is branching out controls, formats, and such to a locale, which is not necessarily a location or a region. You could have en-us, en-ca, en-us, en-uk, en-au, en-sp, or you just have en to translate it to English and call it a day

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Not to tech bros, they were to hungover from their sketchy frat bro ragers full of men hoping to get lucky and commit sexual assault to pay attention in that one humanities class they took freshman year.

Language studies are an obsolete profession to them, the future they have built is bullshit all the way down, there is nothing left to study other than the language of utter incompetency and proud willful ignorance steeped in chauvinism which they eminate like a 2005 vintage Abercrombie & Fitch mall store eminated vapors of shitty cologne.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's a bit akward to respond to that, since I did a Master's in CompSci, lol. At least I can distance myself from that massive burn a little by saying that I was the akward virgin type and didn't like the machine learning courses I had to take.

Language studies seem fascinating to me, I always found the stuff my sister was doing in her studies pretty interesting. A friend of hers was even trying to become an interpreter, that sounds so difficult.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

For what it is worth I am not trying to dunk on being awkward, introverted or neurodivergent in a way that makes it hard to be confident in "normal" social situations (i.e. a normal defined by people with a brain entirely unlike yours). I don't mean that kind of computer geek.

The thing is, there are plenty of hot people who would think you are hot for being exactly that precise kind of nerd, or artist, or just different person with a different brain it's just that interesting and different people are usually shy because of how people treat them for being interesting and different and so it is hard to actually find that other hot cool weirdo and get into a conversation with them. Once you do, you are off to the races into some weird kind of sexy nerdy wonderous relationship and all this incel nonsense collapses in one moment of looking into their eyes.

The losers I am talking about never get to that point because they are never nice enough to a woman long enough to have them gaze into their eyes like that and a whole lot of them went into computers or business...

The people I am attacking are too narrow minded to understand that the reason nobody they are attracted to wants to talk to them is the way they treat the people they are attracted to in moment to moment social interactions and also in political ideology and values.

Computers are cool as fuck, computer people are great, we just need more cool people to dilute and displace the toxicity of this kind of ingrown toxic male masculinity that permeates a lot of video game and computer circles. It isn't just bad for women, it actually erodes the capacity of the men in these circles to critically think, in otherwords this shit is brainworms.

TL;DR Make Computing Great Again a.k.a. bring it back to it's roots a.k.a. make it queer, feminine and militantly focused on fighting oppression and totalitarian ideologies again

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not that I disagree with the sentiment but in most software systems localization does not just mean translation either. Localization as a practice includes date, time, and number formats, preferred units of measure, language and dialect, and sometimes a few other things. I'm not saying localization or translation are done well, or that the Big Tech companies give any shits about it at all, but its not as though computer professionals are all entirely ignorant of these distinctions.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean I take your point but again you are just describing the technical details of localization. The little fiddly bits that can be automated and neatly dealt with by a computer or person with an accountant's mindset for making sure little things plug neatly and cleanly into other little things. Any concept of "localization" that does not include careful consideration of the vast territory of nuance that surrounds the much easier technical details seems useless to me in the context of solving any actual real world problem.

When it comes to the actual hard parts about localization I am fairly certain almost every computer professional I have ever met or talked to does not understand them. The more successful a computer person is in their career the more they tend to think everything in the world functions like computers and thus they don't need to try to understand alternate systems or phenomena that don't adhere to their narrow tool belt of critical thinking strategies that can't handle even a homeopathic amount of ambiguity or subjective nuance.

These types of people spend all day thinking in programs and then go home and play factorio and they think they are the smartest people in the entire universe, and they are idiots. Very very skilled idiots.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Very very skilled idiots.

On that--and as a highly skilled idiot myself--we fully agree!

The adage "social problems don't have purely technological solutions" is something I've known for years yet must continuously remind myself of and reintegrate it for new issues.

It's a shame the old vision of computer specialists integrated into empowered teams building bespoke solutions never really came to pass. Not enough profit in that model, when mass market slop is so lucrative.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

I don't think there are any experiences on the fediverse right now that are comparable to TikTok. Loops is still beta, isn't it? If Reddit was banned and people clocked to some Chinese forum I could agree with this meme.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

OK but my wife is actually excited by how it lets her see Chinese experiences

[–] Tin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

This is fine. I don't want mainstream users. I want niche weirdos.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 33 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You're missing the important factor of the cultural zeitgeist

People who flocked to RedNote weren't just going there for an alternative to TikTok

They were specifically going there because the US government said "you can't go on the Chinese App!" so they said "Oh yeah? I'm gonna find an even MORE Chinese app to hang out at!"

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Then decades of sinophobic propaganda melted. It was amazing to watch.

[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You mean they signed up for an app that actually works and generates a feed for you vs one that doesn't do either of those things?

[–] don@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No, I think they mean “Well, fuck. The thing I liked is being taken away, and here’s where everyone else is going, so I should do that, too.”

That’s just my interpretation, though.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] P4ulin_Kbana 3 points 9 hours ago
[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Yep that's addiction it's hard to recover.

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