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Year of the ~~Linux Desktop~~ Fediverse!

Side note, DAE find calling them "normies" kinda icky? It's like straight outta 4chan

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[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Red note just added a feature that lets you translate any comment to English (or presumably the local language of your phone number) . Online reviews and Airbnb have done this for a long time. It's a simple yet amazing feature, one that will really remove barriers to appreciating different cultures. I would love to have it here so that everyone can speak their native tongue and others could appreciate it. I always want to know what the French and German communities are up to (those are the most common other languages I see).

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 71 points 22 hours ago

A lot of people are going to rednote as a show of protest:

  • these people have had their data mined since they were babies, they've been taught by the market since birth that their data isn't something they should value
  • then they're told that it's bad that these other people can access their data, with no explanation as to why it's any different
  • while at the same time being told that it's totally fine for the folks who are already mining your data to sell it to the people who shouldn't have your data

So they're basically saying "you're lying, and your explanation contradicts your previous behavior, so I'm gonna do the exact opposite of what you want"
Again because they don't actually care about their data

[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Even worse; they flood the internet with „china actually kinda based“ posts. Orientalism is back and nothing changed

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

In art history, literature and cultural studies, Orientalism is the imitation or depiction of aspects of the Eastern world (or "Orient") by writers, designers, and artists from the Western world. Orientalist painting, particularly of the Middle East,[1] was one of the many specialties of 19th-century academic art, and Western literature was influenced by a similar interest in Oriental themes.

Critical studies

Edward Said

In his book Orientalism (1978), cultural critic Edward Said redefines the term Orientalism to describe a pervasive Western tradition—academic and artistic—of prejudiced outsider-interpretations of the Eastern world, which was shaped by the cultural attitudes of European imperialism in the 18th and 19th centuries.[20] The thesis of Orientalism develops Antonio Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony, and Michel Foucault's theorisation of discourse (the knowledge-power relation) to criticise the scholarly tradition of Oriental studies. Said criticised contemporary scholars who perpetuated the tradition of outsider-interpretation of Arabo-Islamic cultures, especially Bernard Lewis and Fouad Ajami.[21][22] Furthermore, Said said that "The idea of representation is a theatrical one: the Orient is the stage on which the whole East is confined",[23] and that the subject of learned Orientalists "is not so much the East itself as the East made known, and therefore less fearsome, to the Western reading public".[24]

In the academy, the book Orientalism (1978) became a foundational text of post-colonial cultural studies.[22] The analyses in Said's works are of Orientalism in European literature, especially French literature, and do not analyse visual art and Orientalist painting. In that vein, the art historian Linda Nochlin applied Said's methods of critical analysis to art, "with uneven results".[25] Other scholars see Orientalist paintings as depicting a myth and a fantasy that did not often correlate with reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism

Yeah i dont think that people saying "China is kinda based" are trying to appropriate chinese culture from the perspective of a culturally and racially superior western hegemonial empire. Quite to the contrary actually.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Culturally and racially superior?

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[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 33 points 1 day ago (10 children)

You're expecting Zoomers and Gen Alpha irreversibly addicted to short-form video content, which has resulted in an attention span that doesn't extend past 30 seconds, to READ?

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[–] dx1@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What is the one on the left anyway?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Fedivserse logo, thats lemmy, mastodon, sharkey, mbin and all the other decentralised social medias.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

While I like the logo, I also realize that the logo also evokes blind hatred from people. Unfortunately, you only have to mention the color scheme, which for many is like a declaration of war. Sick world

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Is the sky woke? There's a rainbow in it.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana 2 points 9 hours ago
[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I like rainbows. I don't know what all woke is because it feels like it's everything republicans/MAGA/right-wing/anti-democratic/etc. use to defame something and direct hate towards it anyway. But as I said, it's just a feeling... I don't know what it's really about.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 136 points 1 day ago (17 children)

The advantages most of us see in the Fediverse (lack of corporate control, low algorithm interference) are seen by most normal users as either of little importance, or actively detrimental. The Fediverse requires you engage with it to cultivate a feed that gives you what you're interested in. But the people fleeing to Rednote want a strong algorithm that feeds them what they want, and they don't mind influence games being played by the algorithm in exchange for this convenience.

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It would be nice if the Fediverse (or some apps like Sync) had a strong algorithm that you can choose to activate if you like, once you install the app.

And could pick from different algorithms, one big barrier to entry for new users is the UX just sucks compared to platforms they're used to.

Eg. Default lemmy Web UI is TERRIBLE

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I kind of like the algorithm idea that Neptune (a potential Tiktok replacement) plans on having.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2dbYBKj/

It plans on giving users different sliders, such as:

Following

Friends

Trending

Categories

etc.

https://www.tiktok.com/@theneptuneapp?_t=ZT-8tE7t6KDR5m&_r=1


Or maybe something like Fedialgo?


Or maybe perhaps something like Bluesky's Algorithmic Custom Feeds, but adapted for Fediverse Social Media?:

https://docs.bsky.app/docs/tutorials/custom-feeds

https://bsky.social/about/blog/7-27-2023-custom-feeds

https://docs.bsky.app/docs/starter-templates/custom-feeds

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

I mean, a software could easily do it they just don't.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (25 children)

Personally, I think there's room in the Fediverse for an app with a "strong algorithm" provided it's completely open ofc.

My biggest issue with algorithms isn't the fact they exist, but that they're proprietary black boxes so no one truly knows how it's being manipulated

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Remember when Musk took over Twitter and "open sourced" the algorithm, although it was impossible to reconstruct anything from what was given, and contained clear signs of being edited and incriminating details suggesting content categorization and prioritization?

What I really want to see is Facebook's algorithm, because it seems to just produce a neverending stream of alt-right bullshit.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Have you seen what acquiring lots of mainstream users does to a platform?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 hours ago

That's what I love about the fediverse. Sure, the huge instances will struggle to maintain their identity, but new instances can be spun up for approx $15/mo USD. Pass the hat around to 100 people and you can easily cover that.

Also instances do not have to please everyone, and they don't have to push ads, or worry about being a friendly corp playground, so they can just tell people who don't fit the vibe to fuck right off.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

It allows it to have a large range of content covering a variety of interests?

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Gotta second this. Especially if the growth is sudden. It's very difficult to integrate newer users into the existing culture.

There are merits to being a smaller community.

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