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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Did something happen with lemmy.world?

[–] paperemail@links.rocks 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The mods from 196@blahaj suddenly wanted to migrate to lemmy.world

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20937206

And not everyone agreed.

Ada also made a post about it: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20968775

[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how, but I only now recognise this as a photo of a budgie, my first scroll past I saw some ungodly horror creature screaming (with the beak being their entire head, and the squinted eyes being arms, maybe a fuzzy scene from an anime or something?).

Anyway, I'm certain no one cares, but I'm just so much more comfortable with it being a budgie lol

*cockatiel (◕દ◕)

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oof... the fediverse needs serverless communities.

[–] WhoLooksHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What does server less communities even mean?

The cloud is just someone else's computer. So to have server less would mean inaccessible?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cross-server communities would maybe be a better name. As in !196 would aggregate from all the communities named "196" on the fediverse.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's just like subscribing to a subscription folder which contains all "politics" communities. That doesn't mean the folder cannot be changed by the client. The client could easily have the feature to exclude communities from the folder or ignore blocked communities.

There could even servers that provide filtered community groups/folders.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://piefed.social/ already has those, they are called "Topics"

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

That's pretty cool! Would be nice to have those in other fediverse software!

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I assume it's a political preference, and they're also trying not to overload our hosts by decentralizing a common interest.

Edit: fuck, am I wrong? Something did happen; I'm out of the loop.

Edit 2: Is it Luigi?

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Short version is that the main mod at blahaj.zone tends to mod based on vibes, so they've decided they'd rather take their community to .world where there is less moderation.

Problem is, .world is one of the most defederated instances. Personally, I stopped seeing trolls almost instantly when I stopped following .world communities, and pretty much everyone I've ever blocked has been a .world user. Also, .world mods have been instructed to engage with trolls in good faith, which is generally not a good move.

Edit: Ada left a comment defending herself and explaining that this move was essentially done behind her back. Personally, I'm sticking here because I think banning bad vibes is a good move, and the thing Moss was complaining about seemed like good things to me. Ada has never come across to me like a powertripping mod.

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aight, as a more casual Lemmy user who doesn't pay attention to the drama, what all has been happening with .world that's led to folks defedding with it? Only made a .world account cause it was one of the bigger instances around the reddit exodus.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's mostly how big it is, the lax moderation policy, and all the effects of those that make smaller servers not want to deal with .world. As far as I know, there is no drama about this, .world is just big and that causes problems.

A similar thing on Mastodon is how Mastodon.social is the most commonly restricted and defederated server (meaning that you only see posts and replies coming from mastodon.social if you are following the poster/replier) simply because otherwise federation would DDOS smaller servers. The instance i am on now restricts mastodon.social, and the one i started on was fully defederated from mastodon.social. Mastodon.social has a pretty identical reputation to .world, and similarly to .world pretty much all the celebrities are there so defederation is a tough call for admins who chose it.

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Copy that, much appreciated.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a casual observer, it's interesting to see localized bias in action.

From what I've read so far, this move is supposedly related to a certain dragon using specific pronouns.

One side consider them a troll and saw blahaj choosing to protect them as a poor move. The other disagrees.

Your comment is amazing when considering that the opposite side uses the same argument in regards to trolls.

So I have to wonder whether there really is a troll and who they are or it's just a bunch of regular people unable to accept the concept of having different opinions on life.

Nice.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

From what I've read so far, this move is supposedly related to a certain dragon using specific pronouns.

This is not really true, though not entirely irrelevant either. Some useful information below:
https://lemmy.world/comment/14552252

The gist of it is, the mods do not agree with how the blahaj admin moderates, and how they apply the instance rules to the community. The neopronoun stuff could be an example (see: if someone was approaching it in good faith, and got banned for it - I don't have an example of that, but I also haven't looked), but isn't really the gripe here.

Again, the biggest problem here is just the community mods suddenly saying "Hi guys, we're over at .world now and c/196 is locked. Go there now" with very little notice, no community input, and scant details up front about the actual issue they had. The fact that the actual conflicts weren't outlined in more detail is why people are jumping to "it's because of dragon trolls". There is a user who uses neopronouns who often caused a stir, and there was controversy around how they/people misgendering them were dealt with, but that's not it in itself from my perspective, looking into it further.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, a problem with these arguments is that it takes time to go through with them start to end and the popcorn-munching audience (such as myself) have to watch them episode by episode. This results in having incomplete information on the actual situation.

A more reasonable way would be to wait until the season ends and then read the summary. But needlessly meddling into things is way spicier and hard to resist.

I should probably hold back more...

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure if someone wanted to actually moderate 196.blahaj then an admin would give the community over.

just like the .world admins removed the 196.world mod before this change

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, Ada refuses to power trip

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Weird.

The original decision is plagued with the idea that the community belongs to the mods, and refusing to give it over only plays into that stupid idea