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Donald Trump signed an executive order to challenge birthright citizenship, targeting children of undocumented immigrants born in the U.S.

The order argues against the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship for those born on U.S. soil.

It bars federal agencies from recognizing birthright citizenship and imposes a 30-day waiting period for enforcement.

The order is expected to face significant legal challenges, with critics calling it unconstitutional.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 29 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I never ever ever want to hear anymore excuses from democrats about "oh, but we did kinda do the one thing. Governance is hard, and we just couldn't get 100% of Congress to agree. The republicans bullied us until we came and we're all out of gas :("

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

I don't even understand what this will mean. Why does the donvict care so much about this?

Would this mean that while Elon was here illegally and if he had kids with someone with the same status, his kids would not be citizens?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Hurt brown ppl. Member when they ended public pool segregation? Instead of letting their kids swim with black kids the white ppl closed the pools instead.

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argues against the 14th Amendment

critics calling it unconstitutional

Uuuuh yeaaah, no shit...

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 291 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Fourteenth Amendment Section 1 All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

I don't get how you square those two together.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago

You just lie about the second part and have a government full of sycophants and a corrupt Supreme Court that declares that everything you do is by definition legal.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 117 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably with “The founders only wanted what I think they wanted, despite their explicit instructions”

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 99 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interpreting old texts to match their own personal beliefs is what Christo fascists are best at.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (5 children)

states should arrest border patrol agents attempting this.

Democrats should threaten to charge anyone attempting this of human trafficking.

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think recent events have shown Democrats are incapable of helping anybody but themselves. And even then they're shit.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Some of the state parties have considerably more teeth.

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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 93 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Would you like to know more?

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[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 118 points 1 day ago (14 children)

The heritage foundation has an argument prepared for the inevitable supreme court case. I think it's shit, even for them, but SCOTUS seems like they'll go along with anything.

Their argument hinges on the phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction there of" claiming that this somehow excludes non-citizens. Accepting this argument would have the weird implication of saying that non-citizens in the US are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US. So... how do other laws apply to them? How could they be charged with working or entering the US illegally?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Even then, they'll likely rig the 2026 elections, to get a supermajority, so they can just replace the constitution with one that is 100% compatible with christofascism.

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