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You call it what it was, a Nazi salute.
Because if he cries defamation and wants to sue, stand there in court and give the judge the finger. The judge shoukd either accept that hand gestures have commonly accepted meanings or endure the whole case while you give everyone the finger. Probably make a few wanking motions with your hand for good measure...
News from today; german prosecutor is investigating against the guys who projected this on the Teslafactory for showing illegal Nazi symbolics. So: for german prosecutors it definitely was a Nazi salute.
Not so quick, they say the gesture was "out of context" and resembles the Nazi gesture. So even the German police/law is going to gag on musk's dick. Great, I didn't know we are there already.
So this will be added as a right wing crime in the logs? Got it
That is not German humor, that is German anger.
Tbf, german humor and german anger are hard to distinguish by people who aren't used to both.
Genau.
german news media reports this is fake picture? Is that true?
No, it's real. It was an art installation at the Tesla Factory Berlin.
Damn you are right, this rbb (german funded media) article in german reports this in detail https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2025/01/tesla-gruenheide-led-by-donkeys-zentrum-fuer-politische-schoenheit-beamer-projektion-fassade.html
German police started investigating the activists for showing "Verwendens von Kennzeichen verfassungswidriger Organisationen" (I will roughly translate this to "usage of unconstitutional symbols") . Are they serious, like showing images of Musk doing this is unlawful?
Are they serious, like showing images of Musk doing this is unlawful?
Potentially, which I guess might have been the entire point. The ZPS is no stranger to provoking law suites, and since Musk did this in the US this might be their attempt at baiting the German jurisdiction to take a stance on it.
That said the article you linked says the police talks about having an "Anfangsverdacht" (initial suspicion), which basically means "we have heard about it and will look into it".
Yes. He is a nazi performing a nazi salute which is prohibited for good reasons. So that specific image where Elon basically comes clean as the Nazi he is, is in fact prohibited.
I mean why shouldn't this be unlawful?
It is because he is a rich billionaire and they cannot be bad right? /s
no I mean the activists "Zentrum für Politische Schönheit" who projected the image at the factory are investigated for a crime, for showing Musk doing the Hitler salute. Wat will be their punishment, this was not meant to put Musk into a good light, but rather his nature.
Ah sorry for the misunderstanding. Yes it is. Even though it is satirical, it it still 'wrong' imagery. But a 10/10 message.
This is mostly to get the German police to investigate so they will say that it is actual a Nazi salute. Even if the protesters get into legal trouble that is the point, to get the German police to take a stance.
Well, they have to do it but it's no declaration of guilt. Just like because someone is in front of a judge they're not automatically guilty.
His response kinda confirms it was exactly what it looked like:
“Frankly, they need better dirty tricks,” Musk wrote on the social platform X, responding to a post describing the “salute hoax” as “just another part of the ‘dirty tricks campaign.’”
“The ‘everyone is Hitler’ attack is sooo tired,” Musk added, with a sleeping emoji.
The only response to that should be
Straw man: Nobody accused you of being Hitler
Yeah, I mean, it's obviously trolling to begin with. What he did is undeniably similar to the nazi salute, yet he dismisses that fact without even slightly addressing it. It's intentionally lazy, and trying to conflate less-apt Hitler comparisons with an incredibly applicable one. Because he knows this approach will work for his intended audience, and he gets to chuckle to himself about being untouchable.
Yeah, it's not like the Germans would have any special insight into Hitler and not invoke him lightly.
hey, I'm not doubting them at all. When I first saw this headline days ago I thought. "surely it's at least plausibly deniable".
It was not. The mask is all the way off now.
I'm actually impressed you created that one 2 years ago, I assumed you just did it for this joke.
We Germans have a very good humor actually we wrote the book aboud it. A whole compendium. Thousands of pages. The most comprehensive work you'll find. It's just not a funny book.
I can picture this very German explanation of what humour is. A technical manual on it and how to be funny, and yet not a single "lol" was had in the reading
German humour is no laughing matter.
Led By Donkeys are British (they formed in the wake of Brexit)
Center for Political Beauty is also a dope name and group tho. They do great work.
And i thought that's a very beautiful photoshop, even emulating the light ray.
Same here, knowing it's a projector that everyone can see just makes my day.
🤘👏
https://xcancel.com/ByDonkeys/status/1882379625554178266
https://xcancel.com/politicalbeauty/status/1882166036180631682
Edit: Added cancel after x in url
Why oh why do they post on x only and not say threads or bluesky?
The engagement drives profit and funds Nazis.
I don't think anyone who considers their self decent should be using xitter anymore. They just normalise the acceptability.
I think that is strange as well, the fact that this happened is important in my opinion. That's why I shared it. The video is great.
If someone finds/hosts it elsewhere I will edit my comment
You can add "cancel" after "x", like this:
https://xcancel.com/politicalbeauty/status/1882166036180631682
Because of the target audience. We know this already, many others don’t. Yet. But I agree they should post it elsewhere too.
https://bsky.app/profile/ledbydonkeys.org/post/3lgeadvbaek2g here is a bluesky post
Damn, there are comments defending Musk, saying that Tesla are the safest or that Europe is dead because of leftists.
My fellow Europeans, can we please ban them, ban X and all the US republicans, never speak to them again and just continue living a good peaceful life with the rest of the world?
Holy shit, those comments are insane
Are people really this dense? It is clearly a nazi salute.
Saying "My heart goes out to you" does not negate the fact that I just showed my middle finger to someone.
Because it's the heart of a Nazi, anyway.
