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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 13 hours ago

The most interesting conspiracy is Israel killing JFK because he was about to force them to register their lobby as a foreign agent.

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 17 hours ago

He will likely release them to manufacture the consent required to dismantle, or at least retool, the fbi and cia so that he can further consolidate power.

It wouldn't change my opinion tbh. Regardless of what is in the documents, the country is literally dripping with blood from the domestic and international assassinations, coups, genocides, etc.. I'm not sure my opinion can be any lower, and it would take a miracle to improve it at this point.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

When will he release the Epstein reacted documents...

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Trump himself was a visitor to Epstein's pedo island. A lot of rich people were there as well and there are lists and proof of it. The notion that Epstein killed himself in his own jail cell is ridiculous. A lot of people wanted to see him dead.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

It's pretty plausible that Epstein would be suicidal after being locked up and would have killed himself if left unattended in his own jail cell with some rope, especially as giving him some rope would signal that he wasn't going to get saved. The more sensible conspiracy theory is that he was taken off suicide watch intentionally to give him the opportunity.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 21 hours ago
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

The FBI already lost a court case about killing MLK.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I'd be surprised and suspicious if the files come out and it said they weren't behind both.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Once the public learns the truth about [R - E - D - A - C - T - E - D], the world will never be the same.

They would not change at all. Years ago I lost all trust on them.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not a lot, unfortunately

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I mean we already all believe they were at least in on it, so… not at all.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not at all, because I'm already convinced the CIA killed JFK, already know the FBI did everything they could to fuck with MLK including sending him fake 'fan mail' urging him to kill himself.

I reccommend the Eyes Wide Open channel on YT if you want extensive documentation of the CIA / FBI related fuckery going on from its inception through till the 80s.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 48 points 2 days ago

after MKUltra and COINTELPRO and Salvador Allende and who knows how much other crap our intelligence agencies have pulled …

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would not be surprised in the slightest.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 30 points 2 days ago

Ditto. I would be more surprised if there was somehow conclusive evidence the FBI had nothing to do with MLKs murder.

[–] Nyxphoebe@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

More like I’d be surprised if he actually released them and didn’t end up in a tragic plane crash.

[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago

There isn’t going to be a document written by either organisation that says β€œwe did it.” Even if they did, it would’ve been a tight group that decided it had to happen and nothing would’ve been written down.

I'd be like...

"cool...

So why didn't you release it the first time?

πŸ€”"

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

It would not change my opinion because anything he does is either grift or a distraction from his grift.

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Not one bit. They've shown anyone who cares to look exactly who they are many, many, many times.

Being guilty of killing those two would be sprinkles on top of the mountain of their horrific crimes. It would be interesting only in that people would be more aware of the fact they killed a sitting president, that is that there were and almost certainly are elements in the US government who do not answer to the chain of command, who do not respect the purported institutions of US liberal "democracy".

Most likely he won't release anything meaningful. They've had decades to prepare a false narrative that looks better and didn't hesitate to destroy most of the MKUltra documents rather than turn them over.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 13 points 2 days ago

pretty much none.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Not at all, no. The US government is and always was extremely nationalistic (not nationalist, not national socialist, those are different things) and by being that, there were and are groups that do whatever they need to do to achieve their goals (i.e. "not the goals of the opposite party"). Let it be assassination, bribery, or downright capitalism.

I would actually be extremely surprised if the republicans are not somehow involved in killing a democratic president. (I wouldn't be surprised if it was the other way round, too.)

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would probably only verify that there aren't really trustworthy governments in the world

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Even if this is true (which it definitely is for the liberal "democracies") the scale of being untrustworthy, and the consequences of that, vary immensely.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

Sure, we can allow more trust to I dunno, Nauru, to a certain degree and many not

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Luigi deserves a larger shrine

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Only for the government of the last four days.

Previous governments? Lots of maybes. Lots of bullshit. Too many conspiracies. Reality probably somewhere in the middle leaning toward normal.

The US government of the last four days of 70 years and more is wholly untrustworthy of not rewriting history to serve a narrative to a stupid population. See: new Jan 6 committee.

Edit: nothing in this bullshit can be trusted except that the distraction and vilification of the left will work.

[–] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

It would solidify my hunches that's for sure.