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Because in terms of features/usability it was a downgrade from Skype for Business for my usage.

Sorting the contacts was better in Skype and I was able to have the window as a narrow strip on the leftmost screen, for showing the status of all team members. Teams doesn't allow resizing freely.

When watching a screen share of somebody, Teams has a lot of unnecessary unhidable UI elements that just take up space. For the ones that you can hide there is no setting to have it that way by default, and there are also no shortcuts for them.

Also screen sharing was quite laggy right after switching from Skype, but that might have been an internal IT problem, not sure. But it didn't help make Teams more popular anyhow.

Bad UI/UX.

When I screenshare code with my colleages, the 1 fps can be irritating. You miss subtle editing, scrolling, etc in those 1 s.

I can ignore most other things. We only use it for online meetings and screen sharing.

Which makes the new apparent calendar and appointment integration somewhat irritating. Microsoft loves to push their shit.

It demands too much screen space. you can't rum less than full screen without losing important things. Even full screen I often can' see the presentation clearly because it shrunk the presentation in favor of avitars / videos of other people.

now that I'm old I cannot see tiny text like I used to. I thus get really mad at useless spate while I'm strurgling to read the presentation. you will understand when you turn 45 too.

I hate how if you gotta work on something in an app in Teams, you can't have the chats open. Excel in Teams lacks a lot of features, though luckily you can launch in native app, but then co-operating is out the window.

Every day it fucks my login token. Takes a while to load, then shows me my DMs but with a little "login problem sign in again" at the top (WHILE LOOKING AT MY DMS)

So I click sign in in the toast. It takes forever. I'm now 1 minute late for standup.

I do not have to log in. I do not have to reauthenticate or MFA. I just click the button and it logs me in again.

WHICH IT COULD HAVE JUST DONE ON PAGE LOAD FOR FUCKS SAKE.

The behind the scenes logic must be atrocious.

I’m going to come from a different angle.

I spent 20 years in IT before Teams and now work for a government agency in health care.

My IT side says that teams is just OK like its competitors. It’s not great, but it’s not horrible either. It does the job and some of the annoyances are probably due to the demographic using it - people who don’t care for tech nor the meeting.

My employee side doesn’t see a technical deficit in Teams that isn’t in Zoom or whatever, but holy shit does M$ turn their product to shit by buzzword. Teams this. Teams that. Hit me on Teams.

So yeah. IMHO Teams is bad for the same reason Office is bad. Technically OK, bloated, and catering to the managers.

Mobile notifications are a joke. When I’m not working I want to hear from one single emergency channel, it’s my time, not work’s. But even with all itifs but that one channel set I get pinged for every single reply in every team

Because it's run by Microsoft, which is now a Big Data player. They use Teams to "monetize" your company's data and train their AI on it without your company's consent. They use Teams to collect data on employees who don't have a choice because they need a job to put food on the table, like real name, photo and phone number.

If you don't want to give any data to Microsoft, too bad: your employer forces it on you. Don't like it? Your only option is to resign. That's the most egregious aspect of Teams - and Office 365, and all business-oriented Microsoft data honeypots: they use employers to collect data on employees who don't have any say about it.

One I'd throw in:

On Mac, it creates its own audio driver and hijacks the audio feed. That makes it hell to jump between teams and Google meets or zoom as they are constantly fighting.

I think it's because it's work. Its hard to have any positive feelings toward a tool used primarily to talk to annoying coworkers and bosses. It doesn't matter how good it bad it is.

When I first got to try it the chat didn't work. But it had a meme generator built in. So that's what I had to use for a while to send chat messages

• I have a Linux laptop that Microsoft apps seem to hate. Both Skype and teams refuse to let me share my screen (both app and web version)
• The teams app kept putting itself on startup and I had to change folder permissions to make it stop
• The whole click on link to open app thing that doesn't always work
• I'm current having issues with showing calendars but that could be on me

I know we like to hate on Google here but Google Meet is much better imo.

Right click open....

In browser?

In Teams?

...

Using a kettle full of live mice?

In app (the program you installed in your computer specifically for opening these documents)?

Oh why not meet about the document from yesterday? Nah, not that one, do a search!... Okay never mind! Their search is junk. Ah well let's meet to talk about it! I can't read, can you maximize your screen so we can see and follow? Just double click here, right click here, scroll down! Push it, twist it, pull it, pipit!!!! Oh hey! We can't hear you! Can you check yorvmike"

Overall, the big issues I have are that when it breaks it does so unpredictably so I can't learn how to do things right.

1. It was unclear to me for a long time how to find files correctly (it still kind of is unclear). Our institution uses SharePoint for some things, Teams for other stuff, and some folks use OneDrive. It's hard to know how these things talk to each other--sometimes this data is actually shared between those ecosystems and sometimes it isn't. It's probably how some people are settings things up, but I blame the software for making those relationships somewhat obtuse. My understanding is that everything on the backend is actually SharePoint and Teams and OneDrive are just different front ends with different permissions structures. That has helped somewhat but it's an imperfect understanding.
2. Joining Teams meeting links from other institutions is fraught with problems. If I have a Zoom link from somewhere else, I click on the link and the meeting starts. That's it. I click a Teams link on a not-work computer and it can be difficult to open (SSO something something probably). So instead I'll open in browser, which may result in a "browser not supported error" on every browser (including Edge). Even if I can get in my webcam might not support backgrounds. Or the microphone/camera selection I made in browser permissions is ignored by Teams. Any one of these events occurring appears to be random, so I have to plan on a few extra minutes before Teams meetings to log in.
3. Notifications don't go always go away when seen. I sometimes have to click out if the window and click back in.
4. Incomplete markdown support (let me copy/paste a table from pandas!)
5. This is dumb, but gif selection sucks. They must do some sort of aggressive filter for work or something, and maybe that's an enterprise decision. But if I want to communicate exclusively via gifs that is my prerogative, thank you.

Doubt they have fixed the issues, even if they have, don't tell me because I don't care, I will still hate them.

Because clicking on a link on mobile does not always work for whatever reason so I have to manually type in the stuff.

Because it does not work on my computer.

Teams is an abomination of Skype for business, lynx, and SharePoint. If you have ever used any of those then you know how bad that is.

IMHO it just tries to do everything and fails at that. It's not horrible, but not great either.

Chat and calls should be the focus, but even that is buggy. In the "teams" feature I personally have zero overview and I miss a lot of stuff. But that might be user error