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I'm sure all we need is enough class consciousness and gumption so our direct action can stop the fascist regime from implementing imperialism.

[–] dechnically@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

opposition? in THIS democratic party?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

The same thing we did about Manzanar.

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago

Nice try, FBI

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, I missed this one. Someone got the backstory?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Same they they did for the other concentration camp which is currently being exterminated.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wait wut?!?

Is there a source you can link to?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/16368518

There's a bunch, but I put an AP news, Rueters and NPR link above

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 71 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

American here:

I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, it really really sucks that we have to hurt our friends to help them, or you'll hurt us all worse. It really sucks that you, personally, had to say those things too, but it's also brave, and makes me hopeful that we can get through this.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Another Canadian with the same sentiment.

I feel like the sane world needs to make a global Alliance where if America tarriffs any country in the membership, everyone else responds with similar tarriffs.

America needs to learn that it isn't alone in the world and it can't survive in its current state without friends.

Poor Columbia having to give in to America's demands over coffee, if they had an alliance with other countries maybe they could have said fuck you Trump.

[–] NicestDicerest@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

German here, I stand with the same statement the from the guy above me that referred to the guy more above.

Anyways - In the first tariff "war" trump unleashed in after 2016 we tried to tariff stuff from the US, but since we don't import a lot of things from the US, we only had tariffs on Whisky and Jeans (I'm not even joking, this happened).

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 28 points 21 hours ago

That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won't do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they'd do it for it's political doppelgänger.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The world has that option. Come to think of it, it's pretty pitiful they haven't the humanity to stand up to this monster looming across the sea.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago

I'm almost as disappointed in the rest of the world not standing up to the USA as I am disappointed in my fellow citizens' abdication of social and civic responsibility, common decency, and basic humanity.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Where do i sign up for the flash mob?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Bay of Pigs 2: America invades America on location in Cuba.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (6 children)
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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 18 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe we can start by looking at all the corporations who are most supporting him, and push hard for boycotts. It might be slightly indirect, but corporate partners do seem to have the most influence on policy decisions. Maybe we could make a document in the style of the PrivacyGuides project to help people choose alternatives to fascist supporters.

I've seen posts on Mastodon calling for the general strike as well.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

General strike is the way to go. It's like peaceful protesting but it's devastating to the thing they care about most. Older gen are mostly trumpets so they also get hit when their generational wealth drys up and they get to be the ones worrying about making rent.

I've been saying it but most people are hard programed not to question anything and never stick their neck out. I would have hoped concentration camps would be a line in the sand but just look, all over the this post people are obsfucating who is responsible. They think it's important to assign blame to democrats, an almost irrelevant factor, after they proved they can no longer win elections at a national level.

Anyway, I'll be there with you when the strike hits. By that I mean the strike of the billy club as they throw me in a patty wagon for dissent.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Think the only ways to stop this is passing a bill prohibiting using money on GITMO like the Republicans did with the prohibition of spending money to close GITMO.

Or lawsuits.

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[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out...

I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options... There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I've been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible... The people need to know. I've even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they're doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that... I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can't see society go this way.

I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do... I don't even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there's that.

Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up... Murphy's law I suppose

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Did we stop them from building the internment camps at the border in his last term?

[–] lonerangers1@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

call these camps or detention centers whatever you want. It is the wrong language. These places are not owned and ran by the US gov. They are owned and ran by mostly 2 companies. Geogroup, and core civic. I encourage everyone to learn this, and to relay it. Instead of getting rid of these compounds, we need to get rid of these companies who have turned our justice department into a for profit billion $$$ industry. These companies are publicly traded. Cops and teachers have their pensions invested in them. YOU could have investments in them and not even know it. Esp if you work for the government

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/what-trumps-victory-means-private-prison-industry

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

And this is where lemmy needs some mastodon features for boost and repost

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Did we stop the Biden administration from using them once Trump built them? No, no we did not.

[–] lonerangers1@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Biden made a gesture, but it was feckless and performative. He EO'd not renewing DOJ contracts with geogroup and core civic, but the current contracts stayed in place and were years from expiration. And, it was just DOJ which does not include ICE. Geo and core run the majority of these detention compounds on the border. They have been buying political influence with the money they get from government contracts. Of course Trump is all in for it. They have been lining his pockets for a long time. The more people locked up, the more money they make. And by "they" I am referring to shareholders, which consist of cops and teachers and other municipal workers who have their pensions invested in geo and core. Capitalism has started to eat its own tail.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay now that we agree concentration camps bad, what is your opionion on trump making new ones?

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[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I dunno man....are you? I can't afford to go to prison. I have three kids that rely on me for sustenance and a house. Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently. I'm emailing politicians, trying to make good points online, and protest. I think that's all I can do right now. Now, if my family is threatened, or I can no longer provide for my family, then we'll talk again.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I think we're starting to see in real time why nobody stopped Hitler either.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The people in power that are supposed to stop this aren't. AOC is trying to rally people, but not sure how effective it's going to be yet.

Anything you do as an individual is likely to fail and only make things way, way worse. So you tell me man....what should I do that I'm not already doing?

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And the US is about 28 times larger than Germany, making it even harder for people to travel to a focal point of power to resist.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I dunno what I can do besides get out of the US or sewer slide.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

You need to find, pressure, back up, help and signalboost elected politicians who are willing to challenge that. Or civilians going the route of lawsuits. Or Luigy some motherfucker or two, but that's more of a desperate option.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

"To understand revolutionary suicide it is first necessary to have an idea of reactionary suicide, for the two are very different. Reactionary suicide: the reaction of a man who takes his own life in response to social conditions that overwhelm him and condemn him to helplessness.”

“I do not think that life will change for the better without an assault on the Establishment, which goes on exploiting the wretched of the earth. This belief lies at the heart of the concept of revolutionary suicide. Thus it is better to oppose the forces that would drive me to self-murder than to endure them. Although I risk the likelihood of death, there is at least the possibility, if not the probability, of changing intolerable conditions.”

“But before we die, how shall we live? I say with hope and dignity; and if premature death is the result, that death has a meaning reactionary suicide can never have. It is the price of self-respect.”

– Dr. Huey P. Newton

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone who was supposed to prevent this and had the power to do so either tried and failed or didn't bother.

Right now the objective is "Survive", the bad guys have already won.

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I'm gonna be mad about it and have a negative opinion about the US.

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