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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

We've been getting news reports like this and ones about Native Americans, and they are egregious, but it's worth noting we're not getting enough stories about the undocumented people and how badly they're being treated. They're people too. What's being done to them is legal under this administration, but it's evil.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

I don't know about you but we are getting a lot of stories locally about ICE. They just don't make the mainstream news.

[–] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Hopefully, we start seeing civil rights lawsuits for the usual -- 4th and probably 5th Amendment violations. You know, the classics.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

I am relearning Spanish because of this. When I did factory work a long time ago I worked with a buncha guys from El Salvador and Honduras and learned enough to converse. Time to pick it back up! Arrest my 5th gen American ass, fascists!

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 3 points 52 minutes ago

This is possibly not a real thing that happened.

Of all the news agencies I looked into that tried to verify this story, they all came up empty handed. Even snipes did a dive in on it and found nothing

So yeah look at all the comments posted here jumping to conclusions.

[–] shininghero@pawb.social 19 points 3 hours ago

So basically you can be arrested over a mandatory high school education requirement. Fucking great.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 37 points 4 hours ago

Papers, please.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago

This is what Trump wants.

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 59 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Guilty until proven innocent, unfortunately.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Literally. Having to show your fucking birth certificate to prove you are a citizen?

I suppose next they will demand the "long form" birth certificate like they did with Obama. And then they will show it and it won't matter anyway.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 hours ago

I suppose next they will demand the "long form" birth certificate like they did with Obama. And then they will show it and it won't matter anyway.

So, no different than the first time?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 63 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As of 2023, there were over 42 million Spanish speakers in America.

I used to live in South Gate, a neighborhood in L.A. We were the only family in the neighborhood that didn't speak Spanish. Even the local pizza places didn't understand us well enough to order from. We didn't complain, we were the white people who chose to move there and we were fine with it. But we're talking about a neighborhood full of homeowners, not undocumented immigrants. Some of them were in the U.S. for generations.

And then there's Florida:

First settled by the Spanish in the 16th century, 19% of Floridians now speak Spanish, which is the most widely taught second language. In Miami, 67% of residents spoke Spanish as their first language in 2000.

In addition, there are several other major cities in Florida with a sizable percentage of the population able to speak Spanish, most notably Tampa (18%) and Orlando (16.6%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_United_States#Florida

The U.S. has no official language. Spanish is one of many spoken in the U.S. A large proportion of the U.S. used to be Mexico. Of course we have a ton of people here who speak Spanish.

But, you know, "they all look and sound alike."

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 44 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The U.S. has no official language

I'm sure that bill is just around the corner

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 6 hours ago

Almost certainly. They've been wanting it for years now.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 81 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 47 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck maga and the racist bigots dominating American policy.
Thank you American voters.

[–] Fisherman75@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Well I think they really only did two things : A) appeal to far right people with their roots waaaay out in the boondocks mostly northward rather than southwestward using stuff like dog whistles, and B) use doublespeak to simultaneously appeal to, draw in, and superficially radicalize the more centre right types just enough to get their vote over the top, to have a substantial base, and to be able to call it 'a mandate'. I mean they really went out into the deep country for campaigning.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 32 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Honest question and genuinely not suggesting anything, but, Isn't this what the second amendment is for?

[–] moody@lemmings.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Technically, yes. But I strongly recommend never pointing a gun at a law enforcement officer unless there are significantly more of you than there are of them.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There is a difference between second amendment culture and your second amendment rights.

2A culture is pretty much MAGA: "Respect my authority or I won't respect your right to exist." As a former conservative who owns guns, this line of thinking is very pervasive through gun owning circles. But you need to remember that they will fully support laws that bar the other people from owning guns like the Black Panthers.

Bare in mind that the Constitution is just a piece of paper. It only has power when the government and the will of the people give it power. You can assume for at least the next four years, the Constitution will be seen as "rules that allow me to stay in power but don't protect you from me".

[–] Awkwardly_Frank@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Bare in mind that the Constitution is just a piece of paper. It only has power when the government and the will of the people give it power.

There’s a scene from The West Wing that really impressed upon me the great challenge of holding even the seemingly most stable democracies together. Toby Ziegler was working with representatives of a newly forming government and a constitutional scholar played by Christopher Lloyd to craft a constitution. Toby takes issue with the amount of power they are considering vesting in their executive branch, preferring instead a parliamentary system. Christopher Lloyd’s character responds to him with almost this exact point, telling him that their work just then was to instill a democratic spirit in those leaders and through them the broader populace of their country.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How would this family getting in a shootout with the cops have helped them?

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

The 2nd amendment was designed for a different time. As you say, guns won't protect anyone from the governments tyranny anymore. War has escalated the instruments it uses over the last 300 years.

Guns are not a solution, and never were.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 34 points 7 hours ago

the 2A lunatics are the ones who want the tyranny